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Old 03-24-2024 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
Kinda out of date since they’re in the seat count now
Yeah I’ve said this same thing. Never understood how this description fit since I can see the seat count that includes them. I understand there’s other unseen threats, but have no idea how HKs are one of them. They need to stop being called hope killers.
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Old 03-24-2024 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
The real “hope killers” are B1B, C, and SDSB. They truly ARE revenue standby passengers who are not reflected in the unsold seat count.

Or, for that matter, the S2 family of 7 with the 1979 seniority date that lists and checks in 60 minutes prior.
Preach.
Particularly international that requires a visa. They’ve known they are going on this flight for awhile.
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Old 03-25-2024 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Planetrain
Preach.
Particularly international that requires a visa. They’ve known they are going on this flight for awhile.
That truly grinds my gears. We list weeks in advance as a courtesy so that others can make an educated decision. Then there are others who list at the last minute, because they can.
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Old 03-25-2024 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
That truly grinds my gears. We list weeks in advance as a courtesy so that others can make an educated decision. Then there are others who list at the last minute, because they can.
FA lives in my neighborhood. Hired around the time I was born.

She would often list around an hour out, her and 2-4 grandkids to "go see a show on broadway, museum etc"

You were hired in the 70s. You're gonna get on . Just list.

This was a CRJ200 commute so the 3-5 seats she'd take would often be all open seats.

Drove a bunch of us nuts.

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Old 03-25-2024 | 06:08 AM
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What a bunch of cheapskates whining about the intricacies of free travel. You all make $200K-$700K a year on base pay. Pry that clam in your pocket open and buy tickets if you actually want to go somewhere. Hell, you can even afford C+ or First every now and then. Non rev is for that once or twice a year transoceanic trip when you can get D1.
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Old 03-25-2024 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
What a bunch of cheapskates whining about the intricacies of free travel. You all make $200K-$700K a year on base pay. Pry that clam in your pocket open and buy tickets if you actually want to go somewhere. Hell, you can even afford C+ or First every now and then. Non rev is for that once or twice a year transoceanic trip when you can get D1.
When I got hired it was free travel anywhere I wanted to go anytime. 65-70% load factor. It was a huge bennefit. Now I have to spend $5K+ a year on travel for the fam.

Oh, things happen, times change, and you don't get what you once had? Who knew? You do get to constantly complain for the rest of your career though, right?
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Old 03-25-2024 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
When I got hired it was free travel anywhere I wanted to go anytime. 65-70% load factor. It was a huge bennefit. Now I have to spend $5K+ a year on travel for the fam.

Oh, things happen, times change, and you don't get what you once had? Who knew? You do get to constantly complain for the rest of your career though, right?
Yeah we had a pension too. But oh well.
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Old 03-25-2024 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
That truly grinds my gears. We list weeks in advance as a courtesy so that others can make an educated decision. Then there are others who list at the last minute, because they can.
I purposely wait until about 24 out to list. I don’t live in a hub so most of the time I don’t know where I’m going to connect through, I’ve got about 5 options. So I wait until the day before to decide based on load factors. I’ve seen junior non-revs disappear after I list too early and then I don’t end up taking that flight because another suits me better. They could have gotten on, but they were scared off.
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Old 03-25-2024 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Forgotmyhat
I purposely wait until about 24 out to list. I don’t live in a hub so most of the time I don’t know where I’m going to connect through, I’ve got about 5 options. So I wait until the day before to decide based on load factors. I’ve seen junior non-revs disappear after I list too early and then I don’t end up taking that flight because another suits me better. They could have gotten on, but they were scared off.
domestically, we'll list about 2-3 days out. International? It's a gameday decision. Depends on what D1 is open.
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Old 03-25-2024 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
When I got hired it was free travel anywhere I wanted to go anytime. 65-70% load factor. It was a huge bennefit. Now I have to spend $5K+ a year on travel for the fam.

Oh, things happen, times change, and you don't get what you once had? Who knew? You do get to constantly complain for the rest of your career though, right?
At least the money is better today ( thanks to crazy reactions to COVID ) . Back in the day when I was hired the airlines were declaring bankruptcy every 3 years it seemed and merger after merger screwing people out of everything they gained .
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