i agree, hence it would cost us to get, hence i dont want to pay for it

 

An HK is a passenger with confirmed space on a flight. They are NOT standby passengers, which is one of the most common Delta non-rev misconceptions.

An HK can only be bumped from a flight if the flight is oversold, all passengers have checked in, and an insufficient number of passengers volunteer for denied boarding compensation (a highly unusual scenario). Positive space commuting has absolutely no effect on them.

 

[QUOTE=Forgotmyhat;3783738]yeah, they *did* IFF and T-6 SUPT there, but haven’t for well over a decade…it isn’t a training base anymore.

 

Plenty of 9E's at TYS/ATL

 

Food for thought on changes to the passrider system.

Allow employees to select buddy passes + current allotment of who is allowed (children, parents, etc.) Current benefits, no change.

Or.

Allow employee to select one additional passrider (2 total) in lieu of buddy pass/parents/children. Most folks I know rarely have their parents use their benefits or are now deceased. Could we have more allotment once parents pass? Additionally, there are thousands of employees at DL who do not/cannot have children or have close relationships with someone not defined in their vertical family tree (Aunt, Uncle, Sister/Brother, best friend, etc.) Should those employees be denied having more than one passrider becuase they don't have kids? The current system feels antiquated and not reflective of how many folks describe their chosen family. Family is more than just your parents and off-spring. Allowing employees more choices in selecting their passriders feels like a long overdue change

 

I'd be all for this change. United gets two pass riders, and I think they can also use ZEDs, while our travel companion can't.

 

Did your parents ever mention that life isn’t fair? Not everyone gets the memo, so I don’t want to make assumptions. But if this is a battle you want to fight, go for it. Along the way, maybe you could work on the tax code, public school funding, military service, government benefits, FMLA, nepotism laws, the ADA et al.

I have no interest in my ALPA reps wasting any negotiating time or effort on pass travel for Delta’s 100k employees, but I’m just one pilot.

 

You’ve got Delta management written all over you. “That’s the way we’ve always done it.” Biggest pain at this company. Let me guess, you like the double breasted jacket and can’t imagine some one else wanting the single breasted jacket.

 

Don't be a dummy. I was an early adopter of the single breasted jacket, and am probably as anti-management as one can be - which is just as irrelevant the totality of your comment. You can feel free to put something in quotes that has no connection to what I said if it helps you make a pseudo-witty post, but I'd encourage you to use your brain a little more and consider reading posts you want to comment on.

I don't want my reps wasting thier limited time/energy/budget trying to make pass travel "fair" for our work group plus the 85,000 other employees the company would feel obligated to include. It's not possible - not because it's not how we have always done it, but beause precedence is real and changing the policy mid-stream is complicated. Some families have eight kids. Some have none. Some families have three Delta employees but get the same benefits as a family with one. Some employees haven't had living parents for decades, others have had four for decades. Some employees had kids who died and now have grandkids. Personally, I think adding tens or hundreds of thousands of additional eligible pass riders into the mix is a bad idea. That why I, you know, shared my opnion about what I do and don't want my reps to advocate for.

Any chance you have an opinion on the subject at hand? Care to add anything meaningful to the conversation? I thought that's what food for thought was. If the poster wants "food for supporting my opnion" he or she can just ask for that. If you don't like reading contrarian views, the internet is an odd place to spend your free time. You might be better served by gooning more instead.

 

Where did phoenix even mention ALPA becoming involved, much less expending our negotiating capital?
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Now that’s funny