Confused about Buddy Pass basics
03-22-2024 | 01:55 PM
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Yes. Commuters should get priority when getting to work over leisure travel. Spouses and dependent family should get priority over all when traveling with the member on a work assignment.
How that works? I don't know.. At the very least, the FOM policy should be codified without exceptions. They already agreed to PSC come on some reroutes. PSC is already codified for training and for instructors. A version of positive space commuting is available on DH Deviate. All of those contractual provisions give priority over non commuters/leisure travelers.
How that works? I don't know.. At the very least, the FOM policy should be codified without exceptions. They already agreed to PSC come on some reroutes. PSC is already codified for training and for instructors. A version of positive space commuting is available on DH Deviate. All of those contractual provisions give priority over non commuters/leisure travelers.
03-22-2024 | 01:59 PM
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Because it isn't necessarily in Delta's favor. Positive space commuting can bump a paid passenger in the heirarchy of standby passengers (read: HK's in non-rev). This can create a bad paid customer experience.
03-22-2024 | 02:01 PM
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1) I hate agreeing with Nick, even in part. No one can put a letter in for anything unless it goes through the process. I don't care how dialed in the Base Manager is/was.
2) Agree with m3113n1a1 that Sailing's stories are always full of half truths, and even that is fuzzy. We had a line up of north dudes pile on and he still wouldn't admit he was wrong because that's what his buddies told him.
3) GS were not proffers before ACARS, and there was a time when IAs weren't voluntary. If they got you, you were working.
Because if his neighborhood is like mine, you've got a bunch of golf-cart driving dudes all talking about how tuned in they are with management, LCAs who think they're management and former ALPA dudes (with heavy emphasis on former). That's where he gets his "information".
2) Agree with m3113n1a1 that Sailing's stories are always full of half truths, and even that is fuzzy. We had a line up of north dudes pile on and he still wouldn't admit he was wrong because that's what his buddies told him.
3) GS were not proffers before ACARS, and there was a time when IAs weren't voluntary. If they got you, you were working.
Because if his neighborhood is like mine, you've got a bunch of golf-cart driving dudes all talking about how tuned in they are with management, LCAs who think they're management and former ALPA dudes (with heavy emphasis on former). That's where he gets his "information".
03-22-2024 | 02:18 PM
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You are free to maximize your seniority by commuting if you'd like. And you get free paid parking in base. And significantly better access to premium flying. I'd support company paid MARTA or NYC subway passes though.
03-22-2024 | 02:47 PM
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I’d support positive space passes instead of S2s. Everyone is free to uses them as they like.
03-22-2024 | 03:33 PM
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Positive space passes for going to work have some positive effect for the company WRT reliability with "some" negative effect on revenue.
Positive space for for all for "essentially" non rev experience, has virtually NO positive effect for the company. But a bigger negative effect on revenue
Which one is going to "cost" more in negotiating power?
03-22-2024 | 03:55 PM
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Positive space passes for going to work have some positive effect for the company WRT reliability with "some" negative effect on revenue.
Positive space for for all for "essentially" non rev experience, has virtually NO positive effect for the company. But a bigger negative effect on revenue
Which one is going to "cost" more in negotiating power?
Positive space for for all for "essentially" non rev experience, has virtually NO positive effect for the company. But a bigger negative effect on revenue
Which one is going to "cost" more in negotiating power?
03-22-2024 | 06:30 PM
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Once a Delta pilot retires , He/She goes behind 80,000 current active Delta employees and their families along with competing for seats with multiple thousands of other Delta retirees and some Delta retirees that get a certain amount of S3A passes. Active Endeavor employees are Wholly Owned , flying Delta owned RJ's , Delta passengers and getting payed by Delta . There are a fraction of Active Endeavor Folks that you are competing with for seats ( 5,000 Endeavor employees at most ) compared to probably 500,000 total Active Delta employees with their families and other Delta retirees that have retired in the last 30 years . 80,000 Delta employees with their kids , spouses, parents etc. all go in front of you. Your chances of not getting on a flight cause of a 9E employee are pretty slim .
03-22-2024 | 07:29 PM
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Positive space passes for going to work have some positive effect for the company WRT reliability with "some" negative effect on revenue.
Positive space for for all for "essentially" non rev experience, has virtually NO positive effect for the company. But a bigger negative effect on revenue
Which one is going to "cost" more in negotiating power?
Positive space for for all for "essentially" non rev experience, has virtually NO positive effect for the company. But a bigger negative effect on revenue
Which one is going to "cost" more in negotiating power?
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