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Old 07-01-2025 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dmhpilot
They closed all 6 of my crew assist cases that explicitly stated the reroute pay was incorrect per the settlement and contract awareness bulletin (4 reroutes after March 31, 2 after Jun 02) with “23-10 inquiry. No adjustment needed.”
The key, though, is you have stopped the clock. You only have 120 days to identify PWA violations. While a ‘class action’ type settlement may come on an issue like this, it is not a waste of your time to get into the record that they owe you.
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Old 07-02-2025 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by saltbae
Yeah I’m leaving my hat at home.. tired of the games and management ignoring the contract
That's the spirit!
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Old 07-02-2025 | 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
The key, though, is you have stopped the clock. You only have 120 days to identify PWA violations. While a ‘class action’ type settlement may come on an issue like this, it is not a waste of your time to get into the record that they owe you.
reroute pay is not subject to the 120 day clock.

18. B. 2. Exception one: “The 120-day limit does not apply to claims for adjustment arising out of bookkeeping errors.”

Contract has 200% reroute pay codified since automation is not in place, ergo it’s a bookkeeping error now. This is the same logic behind not being able to simply pull down the M7 agreement to get batch sizes back versus grieving the grievance.


That said, submitting a Crew Assist makes work for the company so…
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Old 07-02-2025 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
The key, though, is you have stopped the clock. You only have 120 days to identify PWA violations. While a ‘class action’ type settlement may come on an issue like this, it is not a waste of your time to get into the record that they owe you.
I think this the main reason mgmt is violating the PWA so much. An arbitrator or class action settlement will result in a huge savings for Delta. Look at past settlements, Delta ends up paying a fraction of what they have stolen from us. Mgmt is just waiting for the settlement that could take place months from now. In the meantime, they are saving millions violating the PWA. I also think most PWA violations are never known about by pilots, and it saves Delta even more money when this happens.
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Old 07-02-2025 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
reroute pay is not subject to the 120 day clock.

18. B. 2. Exception one: “The 120-day limit does not apply to claims for adjustment arising out of bookkeeping errors.”

Contract has 200% reroute pay codified since automation is not in place, ergo it’s a bookkeeping error now. This is the same logic behind not being able to simply pull down the M7 agreement to get batch sizes back versus grieving the grievance.


That said, submitting a Crew Assist makes work for the company so…
The company disagreeing with the terms of a settlement is not a bookkeeping error. Those are limited to things like calculations being wrong on a check, or the payroll system provider messing something up that was correct on your time card.

If you want to stop the clock for a reroute pay under the settlement, you will need to file a crew assist claim. That being said, I would expect that an MEC grievance will be filed by the deadline that will stop the clock for all pilots.
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Old 07-02-2025 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
The company disagreeing with the terms of a settlement is not a bookkeeping error. Those are limited to things like calculations being wrong on a check, or the payroll system provider messing something up that was correct on your time card.

If you want to stop the clock for a reroute pay under the settlement, you will need to file a crew assist claim. That being said, I would expect that an MEC grievance will be filed by the deadline that will stop the clock for all pilots.
I’ve been told more than once though STS and in person that there is no “clock” on reroute pay, it does not fall under the 120 window.

That being said I’d never PTT with what the company is doing.
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Old 07-02-2025 | 04:35 AM
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Quite a strongly worded letter, especially from 44. I was RR’ed twice in June. The second occurrence does not contain the addition 200%. Just sent another report via crew assist. .
I start a trip in a couple days. If the $$ doesn’t show up by then my hat will be staying home.
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Old 07-02-2025 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
reroute pay is not subject to the 120 day clock.

Ahh, didn’t know that. Learn something new everyday.
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Old 07-02-2025 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by saltbae
Yeah I’m leaving my hat at home.. tired of the games and management ignoring the contract
Forget the hat…..you really wanna get their attention? No more trading cards. Or ALPA prints their own with all of the contract violations on them. I’ll pass those out all day long.
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Old 07-02-2025 | 05:10 AM
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So does this apply to RRPY AND the reroute pay column on the time card?
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