200% for all reroutes
07-02-2025 | 08:29 AM
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What about a diversion? Tech stop? Flight to LGA that went to JFK because of a curfew, known before departure or after? Fatigue call? Sick call? Late operations with a different flight number both in the delta system and FAA flight plan? All of these are scenarios that add or remove segments after departure. All of them have had disputes over contract interpretation.
07-02-2025 | 09:39 AM
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What about a diversion? Tech stop? Flight to LGA that went to JFK because of a curfew, known before departure or after? Fatigue call? Sick call? Late operations with a different flight number both in the delta system and FAA flight plan? All of these are scenarios that add or remove segments after departure. All of them have had disputes over contract interpretation.
07-02-2025 | 10:08 AM
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Lets not muddy the waters quite yet. This is simple, the company reroutes you (almost always out of company convenience), it should pay 200%. Full stop. We can worry about the other niche scenarios later but right now the company is not in compliance and is once again stealing money from the pilots.
The point I was making was that the other poster was trying to make the issue a “bookkeeping error” when the dispute is about contract language interpretation. The company believes they are in compliance with the settlement and no additional pay is due. ALPA (and everyone with a brain) realizes that optional automation that doesn’t work all the time is not in compliance. The dispute is over the language, not if 200% is equal to 50%/100%.
07-02-2025 | 10:18 AM
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What about a diversion? Tech stop? Flight to LGA that went to JFK because of a curfew, known before departure or after? Fatigue call? Sick call? Late operations with a different flight number both in the delta system and FAA flight plan? All of these are scenarios that add or remove segments after departure. All of them have had disputes over contract interpretation.
07-02-2025 | 10:52 AM
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To be clear, I completely agree with you.
The point I was making was that the other poster was trying to make the issue a “bookkeeping error” when the dispute is about contract language interpretation. The company believes they are in compliance with the settlement and no additional pay is due. ALPA (and everyone with a brain) realizes that optional automation that doesn’t work all the time is not in compliance. The dispute is over the language, not if 200% is equal to 50%/100%.
The point I was making was that the other poster was trying to make the issue a “bookkeeping error” when the dispute is about contract language interpretation. The company believes they are in compliance with the settlement and no additional pay is due. ALPA (and everyone with a brain) realizes that optional automation that doesn’t work all the time is not in compliance. The dispute is over the language, not if 200% is equal to 50%/100%.
Has anyone received the 200%? If not, I guess we wait for yet another adjudication.
Sounds a lot like the State Sick dispute and we know how that worked out.
07-02-2025 | 12:14 PM
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so here’s one that may belong in the reserve thread, but here goes anyway. I was assigned a rotation on reserve. Last flight of the day was delayed due to all the east coast storms and I didn’t get in until the morning after my scheduled release. This required me to fly into a reserve golden day. I called scheduling and asked for an additional X day to be put on my line. They put a PR day on it instead.
Also, my 3 day trip turned into a 4 day. My time card showed 21 hrs for the extra day, which was absorbed by my reserve guarantee. To complicate it further, the extra day of flying over my golden day occurred on the first day of the new bid period.
Am I due any extra pay or days off for this?
Also, my 3 day trip turned into a 4 day. My time card showed 21 hrs for the extra day, which was absorbed by my reserve guarantee. To complicate it further, the extra day of flying over my golden day occurred on the first day of the new bid period.
Am I due any extra pay or days off for this?
07-02-2025 | 12:26 PM
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That’s actually a really good idea . That could be something that’s gets some traction . I hope ALPA does informational picketing like they used to .
07-02-2025 | 01:19 PM
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
so here’s one that may belong in the reserve thread, but here goes anyway. I was assigned a rotation on reserve. Last flight of the day was delayed due to all the east coast storms and I didn’t get in until the morning after my scheduled release. This required me to fly into a reserve golden day. I called scheduling and asked for an additional X day to be put on my line. They put a PR day on it instead.
Also, my 3 day trip turned into a 4 day. My time card showed 21 hrs for the extra day, which was absorbed by my reserve guarantee. To complicate it further, the extra day of flying over my golden day occurred on the first day of the new bid period.
Am I due any extra pay or days off for this?
Also, my 3 day trip turned into a 4 day. My time card showed 21 hrs for the extra day, which was absorbed by my reserve guarantee. To complicate it further, the extra day of flying over my golden day occurred on the first day of the new bid period.
Am I due any extra pay or days off for this?
BUMP.
I'm curious about this as well. I don't bid reserve very often.
21 hours for an extra day will go far to pushing you into maximum reserve for the month; you might actually as a practical matter receive several more days off when you are "full" in the month.
But I take your point.
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