200% for all reroutes
07-02-2025 | 06:53 AM
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Submitted via crew assist and expecting almost an immediate nope as well. Considering how June went down this is going to be a lot of money they’ll be paying out.
07-02-2025 | 06:57 AM
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07-02-2025 | 07:04 AM
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07-02-2025 | 07:10 AM
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I’m not aware of any agreement between the scheduling committee and the company on reroute pay not being subject to the 120 day clock. If it exists in writing somewhere I’d like to see it. I would be shocked if I could go back to a rotation a year ago where I have not filed any disputes and say I was due reroute pay, and have the company pay it. There was an agreement that disputes field under ace/sts were automatically tolled WRT to other timelines in the pwa, I assume that is still in effect. However, reroute pay is not a bookkeeping error, and if it is exempt from 120 days that would need to come from someplace else.
The contract simply states you are due X m (in the form of hours) for reroutes.
A *violation* of the PWA has a clock.
Since you disagree I won’t bother trying to defend the 200%.
07-02-2025 | 07:24 AM
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I’ll keep filing as things happen because if I don’t I’ll get swamped…too many illegal RR’s, skipped 23.M.7, improper assigned SC, etc, to just let pile up in my own personal queue waiting for company answers.
ALPA isn’t running out of cloud storage because a few 1’s and 0’s sat for a few weeks before being deleted if I get a good answer from the company.
07-02-2025 | 07:24 AM
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How is reroute pay not a bookkeeping error? It’s not a violation of the contract to receive a reroute.
The contract simply states you are due X m (in the form of hours) for reroutes.
A *violation* of the PWA has a clock.
Since you disagree I won’t bother trying to defend the 200%.
The contract simply states you are due X m (in the form of hours) for reroutes.
A *violation* of the PWA has a clock.
Since you disagree I won’t bother trying to defend the 200%.
Again, I’m open to there being a side agreement that exempts certain items from the timelines, but I haven’t seen one and you haven’t presented one. So until then best practice is to file crew assist claims until everyone is covered by an MEC grievance.
07-02-2025 | 07:28 AM
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If it’s filed and then deleted before the Sched committee even looks at it 6 months later, did they even know it was there? Did anyone other than me “waste” man hours doing unnecessary work?
I’ll keep filing as things happen because if I don’t I’ll get swamped…too many illegal RR’s, skipped 23.M.7, improper assigned SC, etc, to just let pile up in my own personal queue waiting for company answers.
ALPA isn’t running out of cloud storage because a few 1’s and 0’s sat for a few weeks before being deleted if I get a good answer from the company.
I’ll keep filing as things happen because if I don’t I’ll get swamped…too many illegal RR’s, skipped 23.M.7, improper assigned SC, etc, to just let pile up in my own personal queue waiting for company answers.
ALPA isn’t running out of cloud storage because a few 1’s and 0’s sat for a few weeks before being deleted if I get a good answer from the company.
07-02-2025 | 07:42 AM
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It’s literally a disagreement over the interpretation of language, like almost every other item that gets sent to sts or dart and goes through the process. When a pilot files a claim for normal reroute pay that is denied, it’s denied on the basis of the company saying a reroute has not occurred - a language dispute. The company’s position on 200% is that they are in compliance with the settlement, so that’s not a bookkeeping error either, it’s an argument over the settlement language.
Again, I’m open to there being a side agreement that exempts certain items from the timelines, but I haven’t seen one and you haven’t presented one. So until then best practice is to file crew assist claims until everyone is covered by an MEC grievance.
Again, I’m open to there being a side agreement that exempts certain items from the timelines, but I haven’t seen one and you haven’t presented one. So until then best practice is to file crew assist claims until everyone is covered by an MEC grievance.
A reroute is simply adding and/or removing segments and notification after first airborne departure. No room for interpretation there.
07-02-2025 | 08:19 AM
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