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Old 10-14-2025 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
That's not a bad idea, but you'd have to do something about RES golden day bids. Functionally there's actually no reason why golden days have to be placed before PCS runs start since they have zero affect on staffing for drops/swaps. Having them placed after a couple of days of PCS runs would actually allow reserves to move days around and then more tactically place the golden days.

One a related note, I'd be great if everyone in their survey adds that we need a PWA provision added to allow reserves to convert golden days back to standard X days at their own discretion. Several times I've ended up wanting to sit an early morning 1 day SC on my last LC day, but darn 3 weeks ago I had no idea how things would look so I had a golden day the next day and now can't get a SC even if I bid first in sequence. Plus in today's world the only day that matters about being golden is the first day following LC. Having a block of 3 golden X days means nothing other than blocking you from getting an IA if you are hunting for more premium pay.
Call them what you want but the function of any X day should be that the company can't make you work on that day. You should also have the choice to volunteer to work for premium on those days if you choose, just as a REG. So all X days are golden in the sense that the company can't violate them because they are OFF days. Likewise an individual can volunteer for duty on an off day for premium pay. The SC assignments should be in conjunction with this as well. If you volunteer for an SC you can not be extended into the first day off without your concurrence and then it makes the entire trip "green." If you are unused then SCC. The SC must end by midnight so in a practical sense the company wouldn't offer them after 3 or 4pm-ish.
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Old 10-14-2025 | 12:45 PM
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Anyone else having trouble on the "new" refreshed ALPA site?

Trying to download memos on the GVUL but the links come up blank.

I've tried several browsers.
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Old 10-14-2025 | 02:19 PM
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Scheduling improvements are big, but I would submit that pay in inflation-adjusted terms is our biggest issue.



This chart is for DAL’s top CA rates

While there are obviously some simplifications in this analysis, the days of “A Cadillac a month” are gone for us but not for the company.

Meaningful keeping up with inflation is only fair as profits have done so.

Increased profit sharing (on top of increased base pay) could be an elegant way to do this.

More inflation data at: https://x.com/DALc26/
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Old 10-14-2025 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Interogative
Scheduling improvements are big, but I would submit that pay in inflation-adjusted terms is our biggest issue.



This chart is for DAL’s top CA rates

While there are obviously some simplifications in this analysis, the days of “A Cadillac a month” are gone for us but not for the company.

Meaningful keeping up with inflation is only fair as profits have done so.

Increased profit sharing (on top of increased base pay) could be an elegant way to do this.

More inflation data at: https://x.com/DALc26/
This is a great graphic. Really shows how our purchasing power is just being destroyed by inflation.
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Old 10-14-2025 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
This is a great graphic. Really shows how our purchasing power is just being destroyed by inflation.
Not really, but thanks for making it political.

What it shows is our wages decreasing as our company profits are increasing. We think we score when we get a 18/4/4/4 or something like that. The company laughs at us. They really do. We're stupid compared to them. That's the truth. Wages are something they have to pay us. It's not a mystery and they can't play shenanigans with the rate for hours worked. It's pretty simple math. You all know my stand on soft pay. It was something we did and we all voted for, but I warned you that they would play games with it. They have. They will.

Rates. We need to focus on our rates this cycle. Yeah, the company is going to push back for sure, because they know they can't play games with those. They can if we come at them with more soft pay items. Do you really believe they think twice about "soft pay"? Do you really think it deters them from yanking your chains? Got news for you - it doesn't. Rates and time worked, they can't screw around with that.

Thanks for the graphs Interrogative, whoever you are.
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Old 10-14-2025 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
This is a great graphic. Really shows how our purchasing power is just being destroyed by inflation.
Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Not really, but thanks for making it political.
I have no idea how you equated the first quote to "making it political". The graphs are comparing wages and company profit to inflation, and it isn't pretty.
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Old 10-14-2025 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Interogative
Scheduling improvements are big, but I would submit that pay in inflation-adjusted terms is our biggest issue.



This chart is for DAL’s top CA rates

While there are obviously some simplifications in this analysis, the days of “A Cadillac a month” are gone for us but not for the company.

"Cadillac a month?" A tricked out new truck is >$100k.

Meaningful keeping up with inflation is only fair as profits have done so.

Increased profit sharing (on top of increased base pay) could be an elegant way to do this.

More inflation data at: https://x.com/DALc26/

^^^^THIS.^^^^

That $5-$12 million dollar retirement sounds impressive, until you Grok that $1 million in savings isn't what it used to be.

Contract sharpshooting, sick call enjoyers, meal whinners have their place, but once you turn 65 (or earlier), that comes to a screeching halt.

Inflation is real and it's spectacular.
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Old 10-14-2025 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Verdell
I have no idea how you equated the first quote to "making it political". The graphs are comparing wages and company profit to inflation, and it isn't pretty.
What's inflation now?
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Old 10-14-2025 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Not really, but thanks for making it political.

We need to focus on our rates this cycle. Yeah, the company is going to push back for sure, because they know they can't play games with those. They can if we come at them with more soft pay items. Do you really believe they think twice about "soft pay"? Do you really think it deters them from yanking your chains? Got news for you - it doesn't. Rates and time worked, they can't screw around with that.
Yoooooo, I've only been here 2.69 years and I've already realized this. Thanks for helping me realize that I was right.
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Old 10-14-2025 | 04:11 PM
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Inflation will always exist. Unless we get into bad economic times and deflation happens.

TVM and all that

The soft pay we got in the last contract were excellent and allows me to work less days for the same pay.
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