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Old 09-18-2025 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by spooldup
As someone at F9, I am curious to see what yall ask for in new rates.
Rates are about the last thing you negotiate. Soft pay, QOL, QOWL, etc……then rates.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 05:33 AM
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An SLI with endeavor would truly be the right thing to do, based on DoH.
So how would that work when you've got senior 9E pilots who passed on flowing? Would they then get to jump ahead of 9E pilots who took the flow to DL and went to the bottom of our seniority list? That certainly wouldn't be fair as they got to keep great seniority and pay AND also then jump up the list at DL.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
So how would that work when you've got senior 9E pilots who passed on flowing? Would they then get to jump ahead of 9E pilots who took the flow to DL and went to the bottom of our seniority list? That certainly wouldn't be fair as they got to keep great seniority and pay AND also then jump up the list at DL.
Fence. The only way that would work is the 9E pilots are permanently fenced to the RJs.

that said, I challenge the person who suggested a SLI with 9E based on DOH to give me an example of any airline that has ever merged with Delta and got DOH. For that matter name the last airline merger that went DOH without very long fences.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by khergan
An SLI with endeavor would truly be the right thing to do, based on DoH.
ROFL. YGBSM. Not this again.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
So how would that work when you've got senior 9E pilots who passed on flowing? Would they then get to jump ahead of 9E pilots who took the flow to DL and went to the bottom of our seniority list? That certainly wouldn't be fair as they got to keep great seniority and pay AND also then jump up the list at DL.
Same way a lifer Delta FO is still senior in the company even if he doesn't upgrade.

Those 9E captains are by rights Delta pilots.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
Fence. The only way that would work is the 9E pilots are permanently fenced to the RJs.

that said, I challenge the person who suggested a SLI with 9E based on DOH to give me an example of any airline that has ever merged with Delta and got DOH. For that matter name the last airline merger that went DOH without very long fences.
No kidding. Even Northwest didn’t get DOH and they were flying 747’s.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 06:39 AM
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mandatory positive space on the flight you booked the JS for to or from work if it is subsequently taken for any reason. We have booking windows for a reason and if the company's bad planning causes commuters to miss out on a flight to work, they should be given a seat no questions asked even if it means denying boarding. This is the cost of doing business and not your employee's fault. Of course if the JS is taken and blocked prior to the booking window, no dice. I'm simply saying once a pilot books a JS to/from work and then it's taken this policy should apply. I would not advocate this policy for personal use, only to/from work.

additional IVDs and opportunities

SIT pay that's greater of scheduled or actual. EDP works that way but for some reason it's not currently for SIT pay.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by khergan
Same way a lifer Delta FO is still senior in the company even if he doesn't upgrade.

Those 9E captains are by rights Delta pilots.
NO, they are not. They are 9E pilots. it is absurd to suggest otherwise.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by khergan
Same way a lifer Delta FO is still senior in the company even if he doesn't upgrade.

Those 9E captains are by rights Delta pilots.
Found the 9E pilot.
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Old 09-18-2025 | 06:46 AM
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- No JV scope exemption for Mexico, Canada, Caribbean.
- 5:15 or block, whichever is higher for EVERY day. Not the average across the rotation.
- Hotels should not preference chains. It leads to business style hotels instead of boutique hotels.
- “downtown” hotel wording should change. Downtown is not always the nice area in a city, especially domestically.
- Button in MiCrew to have scheduling call you, or at the minimum a callback feature.

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