Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

Sure and they can give us:

1. PS commuting
2. Commuting language to protect the drivers and train riders
3. Improved Health Care (ours sucks)
4. First Class DH with only option to roll back to C+ (regardless of time of booking)
5. No middle seat DH
6. Lower priced FCFL
7. Ability to select pilot meals
8. Make fatigue "calls" automated
9. Paid Parking (for all pilots)
10. Uniform Allowance to include dry cleaning
11. Make hats optional
12. Provide us an option to wear a coat in winter that actually works
13. Pilots get +4 S2 passes over non-cons
14. Automate CS processes for coverage
15. Vacation time = ADG
16. All training pay = ADG
17. Guard rails on GFB (needs teeth)
18. Permanently eliminate sick look back
19. More vacation weeks available in the May-Aug timeframes
20. If it's on the no APD use days = holiday pay

and on and on and on. And finally, it's their issue to solve, not ours. And if we are going to "help" them solve it, then we need to extract as much benefit for the pilot group as possible. We'll see how bad they want it.

Originally Posted by CX500T

HK pretty much nailed this.

Originally Posted by OOfff

people keep saying “it’s their problem to solve,” but completion is #1 in the industry in 2025. their problem already has been solved

Originally Posted by OOfff

people keep saying “it’s their problem to solve,” but completion is #1 in the industry in 2025. their problem already has been solved

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

Cancellations were not however. Big difference between "completion" and "cancellation" and what matters more to the customer.

Also curious where you got the EOY numbers from? The latest ATCR (available on US DOT website) only covers up thru Sept 2025.

Finally, people posting here are offering "solutions" to a "problem". So if there is no "problem" why are so many offering "solutions".

Originally Posted by notEnuf

It is their problem to solve, if it's a problem. I don't think the nebulous "costs" (whatever the number) are a problem. The 23M7 coverage shortcut has become the norm and they are willing to make the payments to skipped "affected" pilots now and in the future. The MOU does nothing more but hand them a more efficient way to cover any and all trips in 12 minutes. They got what they wanted and we got a pinky swear to honor seniority at some point in the future. It cost them NOTHING. It cost us access to premium time unless you are willing to accept harassing calls at all hours of the day and night. So yeah, I guess you're right... no change, no cost increase if/when they make the change, and no problem.

Originally Posted by OOfff

i’m from the future…or i’m obviously using incomplete numbers since the year isn’t over

our cancelation rate is among the lowest in the industry this year as well.

my point is that trip coverage and respecting seniority is our problem. the company doesn’t care who gets paid extra. we do. so when we talk about all of our leverage, what are we actually holding that the company desires?

Originally Posted by OOfff

you seem to agree that the company doesn’t care

so again, what should we have gotten instead, and what leverage do we actually have to extract it?

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

The company might eventually get tired of paying triple pay for trips. In the meantime, we have ten thousand plus pilots being wronged monthly out of thousands of dollars per pilot.