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12-20-2025 | 07:30 AM

#1781

Xray678

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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes

That will suck for them when/if they correct the 23M7 pay and all that money gets taken away from them 😬

My FO and I were discussing this last night. Could the company strategy be to intentionally pay 23M7 to the wrong person, then later on pull it back without paying the right person? I wouldn’t put it past them.

12-20-2025 | 09:52 AM

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ancman

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Originally Posted by Xray678

No pilot should ever let the company pull back 23M7 pay without verifying that another affected pilot was properly identified and paid. There are plenty of resources for verifying that, including an ALPA STS if necessary.

Paying the wrong person also opens up other pandora’s boxes for the company, including owing missed slip pay if the incorrect pay code improperly lowered a pilot’s pickup limit.

12-20-2025 | 11:42 AM

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15k 320B for IA6 today. Tell me that's not deal making

12-20-2025 | 11:47 AM

#1784

texas1970

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

15k 320B for IA6 today. Tell me that's not deal making

send it to your reps. They can and do look into each instance they are sent.

12-20-2025 | 12:26 PM

#1785

Hotel Kilo

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

15k 320B for IA6 today. Tell me that's not deal making

Ok, it's not deal making....

I kid of course.

Yeah, that's right up there. Probably former Sky West'r I would wager.

12-20-2025 | 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

Yeah, that's right up there. Probably former Sky West'r I would wager.

Nope.

Filler

12-20-2025 | 02:57 PM

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Hotel Kilo

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Originally Posted by TALPAtalker

Nope.

Filler

Funny, we never had the amount of "deal making" for anything prior to their arrival, and we did hire quite a few of them in very recent years. From my understanding "deal making" was quite prevalent at Sky West. I mean, they are not a real union operation anyway, and from what I've been told deal making was actually encouraged and advocated there. I guess old habits die hard.

12-20-2025 | 03:03 PM

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Meme In Command

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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

Do you have any proof that the majority of deal making is coming primarily from ex SkyWest pilots?

12-20-2025 | 03:06 PM

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Do you have any proof that the majority of deal making is coming primarily from ex SkyWest pilots?

Call your reps.

12-20-2025 | 03:19 PM

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Gone Flying

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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

Dl has been hiring SkyWest pilots for decades. The “deal making” came about when the company unilaterally reinterpreted 23.m.7. It wouldn’t be happening without that. I personally have not seen any deal making from the skywest pilots I know here and I know/fly with a bunch.

and as far as deal making there, it’s just different rules for scheduling there. It’s not deal making as much as it is just playing by a different set of rules. Plenty of things are perfectly legal there that are against the PWA here.

Last edited by Gone Flying; 12-20-2025 at 03:32 PM.