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#1861
On Reserve
Joined: Dec 2013
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What is the realistic timeline for implementation of QS? I remained a 717 FO (~35%) to play the last minute WS/GS game. Is this method of trip coverage the new normal (for the next 1 yr.+), or will the no sick lookback be a a big enough carrot for the company? I'm out of seat lock, but not senior enough to consistently credit-surf in this environment. Is the logical move to go right seat in a higher paying category?
If I were you I’d seriously consider taking the upgrade. 35% isn’t high enough to guarantee much these days(that’s where I am as well), and being an A is awfully nice. If things gets “back to normal” I’ll bet you can still credit surf as an A somewhat (gonna have to whip out all the trip dropping tricks), and if they don’t get better at least you’ll be making A wage.
#1862
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
What is the realistic timeline for implementation of QS? I remained a 717 FO (~35%) to play the last minute WS/GS game. Is this method of trip coverage the new normal (for the next 1 yr.+), or will the no sick lookback be a a big enough carrot for the company? I'm out of seat lock, but not senior enough to consistently credit-surf in this environment. Is the logical move to go right seat in a higher paying category?
#1863
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,345
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From: 765A
What is the realistic timeline for implementation of QS? I remained a 717 FO (~35%) to play the last minute WS/GS game. Is this method of trip coverage the new normal (for the next 1 yr.+), or will the no sick lookback be a a big enough carrot for the company? I'm out of seat lock, but not senior enough to consistently credit-surf in this environment. Is the logical move to go right seat in a higher paying category?
#1864
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2022
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#1865
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: window seat
Calling a provision within the contract a scam is disingenuous. It was agreed upon by the company and the union. There's nothing dishonest about it. It's spelled out in black and white.
Repeating that term without understanding its definition just waters down your argument.
Repeating that term without understanding its definition just waters down your argument.
One pilot getting compensated for being bypassed 7 times in one day when that pilot could only have physically done one is also a scam, albeit, for now, unfortunately, contractually compliant. It is a legal scam that needs to be fixed asap. It is directly harming other pilots and stealing money they are owed and giving it to someone for absolutely no legitimate reason.
#1867
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: window seat
While contractually compliant, it is still a complete scam. It’s taking money out of the pockets of some pilots to give to others. Seniority doesn’t mean you get 7 trips in one day that’s asinine.
#1868
I keep seeing people predicting that the company will never implement QS but just drag things out into and through section 6. Personally I think that's just ridiculous. The company has motivation to get QS done in a timely manner. Yes, getting sick lookback back is one driving factor. But I think an even bigger driver is having a way to quickly and efficiently cover trips with minimal crew scheduling handling. How many flights are delayed, or even cancelled, because pilots are sitting on hold for an hour+ just to talk to a scheduler to get an IA? IA's drive probably several hundred phone calls a day (from people who eventually get the awards and from ones who miss out) that bog down the phone lines and take up crew schedulers' time. The company would love to get rid of auto-accept on slips, and this is their first bite at that apple. Plus I'm no expert but I can't imagine that QS programming would be all that extensive. It's basically a GS that pays even if under the trigger and you just remove the auto accept/auto ack options from the slip request input. I get that it's not just a simple copy/paste/tweak of the GS slip step programming but still it's not like it's a complete reinvention of the wheel. Everything I've heard points to Q2 2026 for QS, and it wouldn't surprise me to see it even towards the end of Q1.
#1869
Line Holder
Joined: Sep 2014
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calling scheduling and fishing for IAs is totally a scam.
just two entirely different animals IMO.
#1870
Gets Weekends Off
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To say that pilot actually took money from other pilots is completely disingenuous and incorrect. You can slam your fists down on the table and call the contract unfair as many times as you’d like. But when you falsely accuse other pilots of scamming or stealing, you’re playing right into management’s hand by being ignorant of the contract and shooting inside the circle.
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