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12-23-2025 | 09:38 AM
#1871
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What is the realistic timeline for implementation of QS? I remained a 717 FO (~35%) to play the last minute WS/GS game. Is this method of trip coverage the new normal (for the next 1 yr.+), or will the no sick lookback be a a big enough carrot for the company? I'm out of seat lock, but not senior enough to consistently credit-surf in this environment. Is the logical move to go right seat in a higher paying category?
They don't care which pilot gets paid -- we do. They don't care about deal making -- we do. They don't care about CS hold times. Maybe they care about sick calls, but that data won't be available for probably another bid period or two. Even then, the data will show that those trips will get covered by deal makers.
Prove me wrong.
A5S
12-23-2025 | 09:48 AM
#1873
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You realize the pilot who received 7 M7s in one day had no control over that, right? His/her name happened to be in the right place on the trip coverage report 7 lucky times. They simply had a blanket slip in like everyone else.
To say that pilot actually took money from other pilots is completely disingenuous and incorrect. You can slam your fists down on the table and call the contract unfair as many times as you’d like. But when you falsely accuse other pilots of scamming or stealing, you’re playing right into management’s hand by being ignorant of the contract and shooting inside the circle.
To say that pilot actually took money from other pilots is completely disingenuous and incorrect. You can slam your fists down on the table and call the contract unfair as many times as you’d like. But when you falsely accuse other pilots of scamming or stealing, you’re playing right into management’s hand by being ignorant of the contract and shooting inside the circle.
12-23-2025 | 09:51 AM
#1874
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Many do it precisely for that outcome. I still still a scam that it’s even a possibility. It needs to be fixed asap. It’s stealing money from some pilots to give to other pilots because it’s a scam loophole that it pays out the way it does. Changing it asap is the right thing to do.
12-23-2025 | 10:03 AM
#1875
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The financial incentives to implement Quick Slips will dictate how fast the company wants to create them. Right now, the company has to pay 3x to cover a trip. Once algorithms for Quick Slips are created, tested, and implemented, the company will pay ... wait for it ... 3x to cover a trip.
They don't care which pilot gets paid -- we do. They don't care about deal making -- we do. They don't care about CS hold times. Maybe they care about sick calls, but that data won't be available for probably another bid period or two. Even then, the data will show that those trips will get covered by deal makers.
Prove me wrong.
A5S
They don't care which pilot gets paid -- we do. They don't care about deal making -- we do. They don't care about CS hold times. Maybe they care about sick calls, but that data won't be available for probably another bid period or two. Even then, the data will show that those trips will get covered by deal makers.
Prove me wrong.
A5S
12-23-2025 | 10:04 AM
#1876
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Many do it precisely for that outcome. I still still a scam that it’s even a possibility. It needs to be fixed asap. It’s stealing money from some pilots to give to other pilots because it’s a scam loophole that it pays out the way it does. Changing it asap is the right thing to do.
Do you have any blanket slips submitted yourself? If so, you’re attempting to engage in a scam (by your own logic). Will you delete your slip(s) to do the “right thing”?
12-23-2025 | 10:30 AM
#1877
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Joined: Sep 2019
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The financial incentives to implement Quick Slips will dictate how fast the company wants to create them. Right now, the company has to pay 3x to cover a trip. Once algorithms for Quick Slips are created, tested, and implemented, the company will pay ... wait for it ... 3x to cover a trip.
They don't care which pilot gets paid -- we do. They don't care about deal making -- we do. They don't care about CS hold times. Maybe they care about sick calls, but that data won't be available for probably another bid period or two. Even then, the data will show that those trips will get covered by deal makers.
Prove me wrong.
A5S
They don't care which pilot gets paid -- we do. They don't care about deal making -- we do. They don't care about CS hold times. Maybe they care about sick calls, but that data won't be available for probably another bid period or two. Even then, the data will show that those trips will get covered by deal makers.
Prove me wrong.
A5S
Let's say that sick usage doubles due to the no look-back, and the company pays 300% to cover via IA. Wouldn't these additional costs compound to hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of 2026, and simultaneously irritate the majority of pilots, just prior to contract negotiations? The company has a fiduciary responsibility to create shareholder value, and DALPA wants seniority-based trip coverage - seems like a win-win to get this resolved ASAP. How long would it take for a few GA Tech grads to program this?
12-23-2025 | 10:36 AM
#1878
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Let's say that sick usage doubles due to the no look-back, and the company pays 300% to cover via IA. Wouldn't these additional costs compound to hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of 2026, and simultaneously irritate the majority of pilots, just prior to contract negotiations? The company has a fiduciary responsibility to create shareholder value, and DALPA wants seniority-based trip coverage - seems like a win-win to get this resolved ASAP. How long would it take for a few GA Tech grads to program this?
QS costs the same as IA (300%).
12-23-2025 | 10:44 AM
#1879
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Joined: Mar 2015
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Let's say that sick usage doubles due to the no look-back, and the company pays 300% to cover via IA. Wouldn't these additional costs compound to hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of 2026, and simultaneously irritate the majority of pilots, just prior to contract negotiations? The company has a fiduciary responsibility to create shareholder value, and DALPA wants seniority-based trip coverage - seems like a win-win to get this resolved ASAP. How long would it take for a few GA Tech grads to program this?
12-23-2025 | 11:00 AM
#1880
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Joined: Apr 2018
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Let's say that sick usage doubles due to the no look-back, and the company pays 300% to cover via IA. Wouldn't these additional costs compound to hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of 2026, and simultaneously irritate the majority of pilots, just prior to contract negotiations? The company has a fiduciary responsibility to create shareholder value, and DALPA wants seniority-based trip coverage - seems like a win-win to get this resolved ASAP. How long would it take for a few GA Tech grads to program this?
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