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Old 02-20-2026 | 06:29 AM
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This will be good. No more junior pilots complaining that a senior pilot stole his/her IA.
Kinda wild that these junior pilots bother you so much when this was all brought about by the actions of pilots senior to you...
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Old 02-20-2026 | 06:41 AM
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The destruction of trip coverage over the last few months has me personally on target to gross roughly 20% less than last year. I’m carrying my own water.
Maybe don't rely on Premium Pay as normal pay that you are entitled to.
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Old 02-20-2026 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
Kinda wild that these junior pilots bother you so much when this was all brought about by the actions of pilots senior to you...
Last I checked, RG’s seniority number was in the 7000’s. Junior to hockey.
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Old 02-20-2026 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
Last I checked, RG’s seniority number was in the 7000’s — junior to hockey.
I don't see how the post I quoted targets any specific pilot in particular.
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Old 02-20-2026 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
I don't see how the post I quoted targets any specific pilot in particular.
I think he's saying that our staffing issues and subsequent 23m7 issues are caused by management (RG), not pilots.
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Old 02-20-2026 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
I don't see how the post I quoted targets any specific pilot in particular.
You stated that the pilot(s) responsible for this fiasco are senior to hockey. I reminded you that RG (management) is actually junior to him.

No pilot here caused this — outside of a pilot wannabe in management who occupies a spot on the list for some reason. Furthermore, pilots across the entire seniority spectrum are using their negotiated AA benefit and receiving M7 payments.
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Old 02-20-2026 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
You stated that the pilot(s) responsible for this fiasco are senior to hockey. I reminded you that Ryan Gumm is actually junior to him.

No pilot here caused this — outside of a management pilot wannabe who occupies a spot on the list for some reason. Furthermore, pilots across the entire seniority spectrum are using their negotiated AA benefit and receiving M7 payments.
As much as I agree that the company originally caused this, I applaud your persistence to pretend like senior pilots farming aren't playing any role in this whole "thing".

If Hockey was senior enough to be upstream of the AA slip funnel, he wouldn't be here clutching how pearls.
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Old 02-20-2026 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
As much as I agree that the company originally caused this, I applaud your persistence to pretend like senior pilots farming aren't playing any role in this whole "thing".

If Hockey was senior enough to be upstream of the AA slip funnel, he wouldn't be here clutching how pearls.
Junior pilots are farming as well. Farming isn’t a problem that was created by the pilot group.
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Old 02-20-2026 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
As much as I agree that the company originally caused this, I applaud your persistence to pretend like senior pilots farming aren't playing any role in this whole "thing".

If Hockey was senior enough to be upstream of the AA slip funnel, he wouldn't be here clutching how pearls.
AA is the same as anything else in the contract. Never blame a pilot (or the company) for operating within the PWA.

There are plenty of things the company can do to fix this (pilot staffing, CS staffing, CS pay/training/experience, less fragile trip construction, unused PWA levers, etc.)
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Old 02-20-2026 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack
AA is the same as anything else in the contract. Never blame a pilot (or the company) for operating within the PWA.

There are plenty of things the company can do to fix this (pilot staffing, CS staffing, CS pay/training/experience, less fragile trip construction, unused PWA levers, etc.)
I heard recently that VAS and related provisions in the contract are un/under-utilized because IT limitations..

anyone else heard this? Know more if it’s true to some level?
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