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05-02-2026 | 02:19 PM
#2591
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Joined: Jan 2018
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Honestly have no idea which of the 100 threads about the 4th floor nonsense we’ve endured over the past two years to post this in, but
Jason Crude in Crew Planning has been officially forced out. They eliminated his position and basically forced him into retirement. Apparently HT’s job is secure now that they’ve got their scapegoat.
Jason Crude in Crew Planning has been officially forced out. They eliminated his position and basically forced him into retirement. Apparently HT’s job is secure now that they’ve got their scapegoat.
05-02-2026 | 09:24 PM
#2594
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Joined: Feb 2024
Posts: 391
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Honestly have no idea which of the 100 threads about the 4th floor nonsense we’ve endured over the past two years to post this in, but
Jason Crude in Crew Planning has been officially forced out. They eliminated his position and basically forced him into retirement. Apparently HT’s job is secure now that they’ve got their scapegoat.
Jason Crude in Crew Planning has been officially forced out. They eliminated his position and basically forced him into retirement. Apparently HT’s job is secure now that they’ve got their scapegoat.
05-03-2026 | 12:10 AM
#2595
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Joined: Aug 2018
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There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.
What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').
This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.
05-03-2026 | 03:21 AM
#2596
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Joined: Jul 2006
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No...this is a false narrative.
There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.
There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.
We might be talking past each other here. I agree with your point here as I am one of those who has dropped their schedule and credit surfed for over a decade now. But it's not a false narrative to say that there hasn't been a recent increase in this strategy in hopes of easy/free money of m7 and QS. If that gravy train goes away, I'd guess that we'll see many of the recent adopters go back to their old ways, while you and I keep with this strategy. By gravy train, I don't mean moving RSV before WS, I just mean if they take away the ability to AA or something else that will drive down all the m7 being handed out like candy.
What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').
This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.
This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.
I agree with you 100% here.
Last edited by crewdawg; 05-03-2026 at 03:32 AM.
05-03-2026 | 04:22 AM
#2597
On Reserve
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 197
Likes: 32
From: 767
No...this is a false narrative.
There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.
What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').
This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.
There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.
What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').
This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.
Further if the company didn’t build such horrible trips a lot of that churn would go away.
05-03-2026 | 04:56 AM
#2598
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,202
Likes: 266
No...this is a false narrative.
There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.
What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').
This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.
There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.
What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').
This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.
- You can get hurt or sick and get potentially get stuck with a very low pay month.
- Credit surfing only works in a certain about of categories that have an abundance of short leg traffic flow thru the base. Credit surfing is much more difficult in NYC than ATL.
- There isn't always a flow of easy broken up trip and I wouldn't advise credit surfing to anyone who only has set amount of days to work. There's been times when it seems like WWIII to get a WSnon a weekend. There have been times when you wake up on a clear blue day in ATL with no open time and before you even have a chance to have breakfast ARCOS rings and you are heading to DHing to Aruba for 24hrs.
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