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Old 03-13-2026 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Kinda related but unrelated. We just lost a tanker in friendly airspace in Iraq. Reach out to your tanker friends today.

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-...135-over-iraq/
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Sounds like a midair. Second aircraft landed safely. Prayers for that crew.
terrible news. centcom confirmed all 6 onboard deceased. RIP.

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Old 03-13-2026 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
terrible news. centcom confirmed all 6 onboard deceased. RIP.
After seeing photos of half the vert stab being ripped off the one that landed, I had a really bad feeling it was a search and recovery operation early on.

A toast
Old 03-13-2026 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Bauers
I haven't seen any details about this yet.

The trouble is, there are over 3,000 counties in the US and each one has their own requirements in addition to the building code. Unless congress passes a law that would unify all the requirements (i think there would be constitutional problems with that) I don't see things changing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...3c2800fa&ei=13
Old 03-13-2026 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I have not seen 5% in awhile without a significant buy down. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 7% soon for most conventional loans. It was there just over a year ago.

also the price of a home relative to median income in 1980 was significantly lower than it is now.
%7-8 was a pretty good deal in the late 90s-pre 9/11, so I think your metrics are off a touch. That's right around the historical average for mortgages, so if anything, %5 is considered a bit low.

If the economy NEEDS cheap money, that's an indicator for bigger problems.
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Originally Posted by HelloNewnan
%7-8 was a pretty good deal in the late 90s-pre 9/11, so I think your metrics are off a touch. That's right around the historical average for mortgages, so if anything, %5 is considered a bit low.
my metrics are not off, I was responding to a poster saying people were complaining about 5% mortgages. I was merely pointing out mortgage rates have not been 5% without a buy down in awhile. I was also pointing out those higher rates came with cheaper houses.

the average home price in 1999 was just over 200k. That would be 375k in today’s dollars. Yet the average home price today is 465k. An average interest rate of 7.5% vs the current 6.5% does not make up that difference.

I would gladly trade to have 90s interest rates for 90s home prices.

Originally Posted by HelloNewnan
If the economy NEEDS cheap money, that's an indicator for bigger problems.
Completely agree. However the housing market was allowed to run wild with sub 3% loans for too long. That has created a huge divide of those who bought before 2021 vs after. My mortgage is about 2.5-3x more than if I had bought the same house in 2019. Unfortunately there aren’t too many good ways out of this.

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Old 03-13-2026 | 10:44 AM
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https://x.com/i/status/2032263471903932905

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Old 03-13-2026 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
The entire rest of the world knew they would do this.
Old 03-13-2026 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Khantahr
The entire rest of the world knew they would do this.
The US military knew that too. That headline is just click-baity un-verified BS. Now maybe the miscalculated how far Iran would take it...
Old 03-13-2026 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
The US military knew that too. That headline is just click-baity un-verified BS. Now maybe the miscalculated how far Iran would take it...
The article said "underestimated" which could definitely be a synonym "miscalculated."
Old 03-13-2026 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The article said "underestimated" which could definitely be a synonym "miscalculated."
Which is still just his opinion based upon a traitorous leak from a classified briefing if we believe his article.

There’s no way the possibility wasn’t considered. Now the response to that COA may have been, let them close it, it will hurt them more than us. But no one on this board has nearly enough info to make an informed opinion on the matter, and if they do have that amount of info they better keep their mouth shut until some point in the future when it might be declassified.

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