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03-16-2026 | 12:31 PM

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TDS is alive and well

03-16-2026 | 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers

Does you being a vet buy you some sort if special intellect?

Does your "sacrifice" garner you a special insight as to world affairs?

Wow....you trained with NATO and against China? Color me duly impressed....hold on while I find a pedestal to hoist you upon.

China gets 91+ % of Iran's oil exports and is the largest buyer of Iranian oil by far. Not sure Trump cares if China, Japan S Korea or NATO allies help. He stated today he wants them on record as to their penchant to help. But, but, but Iran has nothing to do with NATO. Neither does Ukraine.... but the US has still allocated $188 B in aid to Ukraine.

it’s **** like this that leads me to say go **** yourself whenever I hear “thank you for your service”

03-16-2026 | 12:34 PM

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I genuinely don’t think you even recognize the high degree of bias in this post.

Even if you have a few valid concerns, when you couch them in this way, it does not serve the argument. At all.

fangs, come on dude. We are in a pilot debrief and we should be able to call each other out. Its no different if its a general thats across the table or a brand new wingman. How am i wrong?

how is asking for help from nato after the last year of bs we dumped on them not ironic?
how is asking china to help us fix a problem not an embarrassment?

it doesn’t matter who was/is in charge. In fact i would counter that anyone that cannot objectively be critical of “thier” side to be emotionally compromised. I dont have a “side” i think both have pluses and minuses.

the middle ground is nice and toasty my friend, jump on in. We have beer and potato chips

03-16-2026 | 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

I genuinely don’t think you even recognize the high degree of bias in this post.

Even if you have a few valid concerns, when you couch them in this way, it does not serve the argument. At all.

There’s a new sheriff in town. Like it or hate it how can you look at our last year of foreign relations and call what he said biased? We have absolutely been bullying and shi11ing on everyone, including NATO members who lost hundreds of people fighting along side us since 9/11. Threatening to annex Greenland and Canada? Ambushing Zelensky in the Oval Office?

Maybe it’s all 4D chess, but the idea of us asking other countries to help us out is a fools errand right now.

03-16-2026 | 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Schwanker

TDS is alive and well

Is this what you mean? Is this what TDS is?

03-16-2026 | 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by demon llama

it’s **** like this that leads me to say go **** yourself whenever I hear “thank you for your service”

Because I might be a bit slow....what causes to to want to say " go **** yourself"? The chest thumping about being a vet by Hubcapped , or me calling him out for thumping his chest like it gives him a special qualification on the genius scale?

03-16-2026 | 12:40 PM

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the FACT that you immediately construe any criticism as a partisan attack means you are not able to have rational discussions. I highlighted my service as a data point to counter your MSM childish emotional attack. I have experience. That doesn’t mean im right, but it does mean i have a slightly deeper understanding of our relationships with both of these entities then the average joe consumed by their fear porn as you evidently are in your immediate go to response of “your on the evil side”. Grow up man. One of the basic tenets of true individualism is to be critical of everything.

if the other “side” was doing this youd be losing your marbles and you know it

03-16-2026 | 12:44 PM

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R.I.P. Hormuz thread

03-16-2026 | 12:46 PM

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You wonder if someone who spent years in the ME doing this same ****, spilling blood and watching friends die has some special “intellect” for having an opinion? You’re ******* right it does. So yeah, go **** yourself.

RIP this thread.

03-16-2026 | 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SampsonSimpson

Is this what you mean? Is this what TDS is?

How about this from 1988?

https://www.news18.com/world/id-do-a...l-9960883.html

or

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/dona...s-ago-11217254

"During a 1988 interview with The Guardian, he advocated for the US to launch a military strike or seize Kharg Island in response to any Iranian aggression against American personnel or ships.

He said during the interview, "I’d be harsh on Iran. They’ve been beating us psychologically, making us look like a bunch of fools. One bullet shot at one of our men or ships, and I’d do a number on Kharg Island. I’d go in and take it."

He made the statement during the Iran-Iraq War (1980–1988), where Iran was attacking shipping in the Persian Gulf. Kharg Island was Iran's primary oil export terminal, handling more than 90% of its crude exports"