Schedule Quality Decreasing
04-06-2026 | 07:54 AM
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True for the 73As but you're wrong about the Bs. TLV is by systemwide seat, not category. The TLV for May 73Bs with the 12 month loopback is 77:50. TLV has been above 77 since February. For March it was 77:59.
04-06-2026 | 07:56 AM
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But two things can be true at once. They can hire bigly, and also run it a little hot.
04-06-2026 | 07:59 AM
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You should speak to the former scheduling chair and current ATL CA Rep. They ran it when he was there. You think he would just make up the result?
And "they" don't do anything. A computer program does. If it doesn't need to add those turns to eliminate credit on trips, it won't. But CARMEN will do whatever it can to optimize with a 6 hour ADG and the results, historically when it has been tested have resulted in very negative outcomes.
And "they" don't do anything. A computer program does. If it doesn't need to add those turns to eliminate credit on trips, it won't. But CARMEN will do whatever it can to optimize with a 6 hour ADG and the results, historically when it has been tested have resulted in very negative outcomes.
For clarity, the ALV is always the same for every fleet by seat. IOW, all 320 B’s will always be the same.
04-06-2026 | 08:02 AM
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The latest bid monitor report on the ALPA page is from Feb, so you are either more of a search ninja than I at finding a more recent bid monitor report, or if you are just doing the math yourself. If the later then I'll concede becauseI didn't put pen to paper to do it old school because I'm not in that category so I don' have a vested interesting in gonkulating beyond what ALPA provides.
04-06-2026 | 08:07 AM
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We might want to try for a minimum daily guarantee vs an average daily guarantee.
For instance with an ADG…. Let’s says there’s an easy two day trip that has both days below the ADG it incentivizes the company can add a really long third day to the front or back of the rotation which then makes the trip average out to be close
to ADG. Thus reducing our QOL.
With a min daily guarantee the company can add that long third day, but they have to pay you for it above min guarantee and they would have to pay you min guarantee on the easy days. With that said I’m not sure how many trips in the bid packets would pay more with the change.
I was told that SkyWest’s contract pays a minimum daily guarantee fwiw.
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For instance with an ADG…. Let’s says there’s an easy two day trip that has both days below the ADG it incentivizes the company can add a really long third day to the front or back of the rotation which then makes the trip average out to be close
to ADG. Thus reducing our QOL.
With a min daily guarantee the company can add that long third day, but they have to pay you for it above min guarantee and they would have to pay you min guarantee on the easy days. With that said I’m not sure how many trips in the bid packets would pay more with the change.
I was told that SkyWest’s contract pays a minimum daily guarantee fwiw.
open to feed back… thoughts.
Edge cases are wholly unsuitable for anything other than illustrating a point. They don’t generally work writ large, when you build a bid package from with tens of thousands of block hours.
MCD instead of ADG is a terrible idea. It would destroy QOL through trip constriction. As noted, we already have MCD (new in C19) of 2:30, and was really intended to make the days surrounding a 30-hour layover suck a little less. The fact MCD makes you more pay for releasing after midnight is an unintended fringe benefit.
04-06-2026 | 08:10 AM
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I'm well aware that ALV/TLV is system wide, not different for each category.
The latest bid monitor report on the ALPA page is from Feb, so you are either more of a search ninja than I at finding a more recent bid monitor report, or if you are just doing the math yourself. If the later then I'll concede becauseI didn't put pen to paper to do it old school because I'm not in that category so I don' have a vested interesting in gonkulating beyond what ALPA provides.
The latest bid monitor report on the ALPA page is from Feb, so you are either more of a search ninja than I at finding a more recent bid monitor report, or if you are just doing the math yourself. If the later then I'll concede becauseI didn't put pen to paper to do it old school because I'm not in that category so I don' have a vested interesting in gonkulating beyond what ALPA provides.
04-06-2026 | 08:15 AM
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Time to make eye doc appointment to update my prescription.
04-06-2026 | 08:17 AM
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04-06-2026 | 08:28 AM
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04-06-2026 | 08:30 AM
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as far as MDG, NW had that before BK. Being wary of the consequences of MDG is smart, but the idea as a whole it’s bad just because regionals use it doesn’t follow for me. I would be curious to compare the results of trips produced by the following 3 scenarios
- current
- keep ADG 5:15 and raise MDG to 3:00
- get rid of ADG and raise MDG to 4:30
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