Openers today?
04-16-2026 | 04:38 AM
#271
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Joined: Dec 2009
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Pretty sure last decade it was the company's idea to introduce single day PB washing, back when they needed WB pilots to liquidate their vacation in lieu of huge shortfalls for summer. Can anyone confirm or paste the exact comm if you still have it?
Does heather know about this?
Does heather know about this?
04-16-2026 | 04:39 AM
#272
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Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,368
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Can someone explain to me their personal reasoning for going to something like Velvet 360?
They steal money, abrogate seniority, pit other employee groups against us and violate the contract at will...
If you want to send a clear message, don't go, don't engage, don't respond to surveys, don't show up to base visits, none of it. Have self respect, that means stop entertaining antisocials. Show apathy until it is no longer warranted, it is really that simple.
CE Woolman, Bethune, Kelleher and Anderson were worth your time, our leadership and modern executive teams for that matter are NONE of that.
Fly the jet, go home. Enjoy family, close friends, hobbies and be thankful you aren't a M-F drone making 1/10th the money. You get one life, live it!
END
They steal money, abrogate seniority, pit other employee groups against us and violate the contract at will...
If you want to send a clear message, don't go, don't engage, don't respond to surveys, don't show up to base visits, none of it. Have self respect, that means stop entertaining antisocials. Show apathy until it is no longer warranted, it is really that simple.
CE Woolman, Bethune, Kelleher and Anderson were worth your time, our leadership and modern executive teams for that matter are NONE of that.
Fly the jet, go home. Enjoy family, close friends, hobbies and be thankful you aren't a M-F drone making 1/10th the money. You get one life, live it!
END
But to your point the whole thing was a little disorienting. Felt like a giant propaganda festival. It was clearly designed for the other employee groups. The 20 or so pilots there all kind of on an island. I went a few weeks ago and I can confirm the VPs are not happy with how things are regarding OOBWSs.
04-16-2026 | 04:44 AM
#273
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,111
Likes: 521
From: Pilot
Can someone explain to me their personal reasoning for going to something like Velvet 360?
They steal money, abrogate seniority, pit other employee groups against us and violate the contract at will...
If you want to send a clear message, don't go, don't engage, don't respond to surveys, don't show up to base visits, none of it. Have self respect, that means stop entertaining antisocials. Show apathy until it is no longer warranted, it is really that simple.
CE Woolman, Bethune, Kelleher and Anderson were worth your time, our leadership and modern executive teams for that matter are NONE of that.
Fly the jet, go home. Enjoy family, close friends, hobbies and be thankful you aren't a M-F drone making 1/10th the money. You get one life, live it!
END
They steal money, abrogate seniority, pit other employee groups against us and violate the contract at will...
If you want to send a clear message, don't go, don't engage, don't respond to surveys, don't show up to base visits, none of it. Have self respect, that means stop entertaining antisocials. Show apathy until it is no longer warranted, it is really that simple.
CE Woolman, Bethune, Kelleher and Anderson were worth your time, our leadership and modern executive teams for that matter are NONE of that.
Fly the jet, go home. Enjoy family, close friends, hobbies and be thankful you aren't a M-F drone making 1/10th the money. You get one life, live it!
END
04-16-2026 | 04:45 AM
#274
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Joined: Sep 2023
Posts: 323
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From: Former Hooterville
"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."
-Sun Tzu
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-Sun Tzu
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EPIC FAIL
Work from the shadows.
04-16-2026 | 04:52 AM
#275
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Joined: Sep 2023
Posts: 323
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From: Former Hooterville
I went on a reserve month because it paid a little extra and just like CQ I used it to break up a chunk of reserve to force usage and rest issues. Just because you attend doesn’t mean you need to drink the koolaid. Parts of it were entertaining, parts were informative, and parts were pretty gag-worthy. Basically what I expected going in.
At this point in the game, signal is 100% of the strategy. Give them nothing to point at, no reference to a horizon and no breaks until a complete flush and reboot is initiated. In the end its for the betterment of the company, shareholders, public, etc.
04-16-2026 | 04:56 AM
#276
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Joined: Jul 2023
Posts: 663
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I went on a reserve month because it paid a little extra and just like CQ I used it to break up a chunk of reserve to force usage and rest issues. Just because you attend doesn’t mean you need to drink the koolaid. Parts of it were entertaining, parts were informative, and parts were pretty gag-worthy. Basically what I expected going in.
04-16-2026 | 04:56 AM
#277
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Joined: Sep 2023
Posts: 323
Likes: 69
From: Former Hooterville
If you bid reserve it’s actually a good deal. You can effectively plop it down in the middle of 5 LC days. Effectively 2 days of commutable “work” renders you useless for 5 potential LC days, and the way it works out is it adds 5 hours on top of reserve guarantee. The food is good, you can ask some pointed questions, you get a swag bag full of trinkets for the kids. I also arranged to go with a bunch of my old Air Force buddies so we turned it into a little reunion.
But to your point the whole thing was a little disorienting. Felt like a giant propaganda festival. It was clearly designed for the other employee groups. The 20 or so pilots there all kind of on an island. I went a few weeks ago and I can confirm the VPs are not happy with how things are regarding OOBWSs.
But to your point the whole thing was a little disorienting. Felt like a giant propaganda festival. It was clearly designed for the other employee groups. The 20 or so pilots there all kind of on an island. I went a few weeks ago and I can confirm the VPs are not happy with how things are regarding OOBWSs.
04-16-2026 | 05:07 AM
#278
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Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,368
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haha yeah not ideal, but it was fun to see everyone. We all have little kids so easier to get away when it’s “work”.
04-16-2026 | 05:36 AM
#279
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Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,444
Likes: 280
Can somebody, anybody, please educate her on this? The iCrew programming, the history of one PB day being needed, etc. Somebody needs to inform her, because obviously ALPA has not educated her.
04-16-2026 | 05:42 AM
#280
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12,474
Likes: 1,037
She doesn't want to be informed. She's trying to save her own job. It's okay obvious she's going to burn it down to save it.
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