Gratitude / Capt buys?
#202
Are you an FO? I’m guessing you are. The only pilots I’ve not seen tip were FO’s. Just had one a couple of weeks ago. I’ve seen it a few times so I keep my eyes peeled and sure enough he wasn’t going to tip. I called him out and said hey don’t forget to tip the driver and he said he didn’t have cash which is BS cuz that’s part of this job. Just like packing your bags for the trip you make sure you have tip money. Anyway I covered for him and said in the future if you don’t have cash just ask the CA and 99.9% of the time they will spot you. And to guys talking about whether or not the driver gets your bags who gives a ****. As far as I’m concerned if they get us to hotel safely they’ve earned the tip. Roads are dangerous these days. They don’t have to “earn” their tip by schlepping all of our bags. Some of you are some stingy mofo’s. Not like they making well into the 6 figures like we all are. I will never understand that mentality.
Yep, definitely an FO. Like I mentioned a few pages up, the OE guide for my fleet actually says to tip van drivers. I wasn’t planning on skipping out on it anyway—I saw CAs tipping when I was a new hire, so I followed suit.
I assume you were asking if I was an FO because the “other pilots” I referred to would have to be CAs. I probably should have specified that I meant when a group of pilots were all on the same van (LAX, NYC), I have never seen anyone, CA or FO, stiff a van driver. I was surprised to see that HK has seen that several times.
#203
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Yep, definitely an FO. Like I mentioned a few pages up, the OE guide for my fleet actually says to tip van drivers. I wasn’t planning on skipping out on it anyway—I saw CAs tipping when I was a new hire, so I followed suit.
I assume you were asking if I was an FO because the “other pilots” I referred to would have to be CAs. I probably should have specified that I meant when a group of pilots were all on the same van (LAX, NYC), I have never seen anyone, CA or FO, stiff a van driver. I was surprised to see that HK has seen that several times.
I assume you were asking if I was an FO because the “other pilots” I referred to would have to be CAs. I probably should have specified that I meant when a group of pilots were all on the same van (LAX, NYC), I have never seen anyone, CA or FO, stiff a van driver. I was surprised to see that HK has seen that several times.
#204
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Maybe you made less than me as a new hire. I don’t care. I happened to be receiving a pension when I got hired, so yeah I probably made more than you did when you got this job. I don’t care. I don’t care if you don’t give a dime to charity. I don’t care if you tip $100 to “the maids” (a boomer term of if I ever heard one). Your obsession about tipping or having dinner with your FO is really weird. Just pointing that out to you so you can course correct in your personal life.
#205
I'm on my 4th trip with a millenial FO. I had one recently that was a Gen Z. None of them tipped. Not a single one. Granted we don't have many Gen Z on the WB fleet I'm on, but we had a few squeak into the category back in the salad days post cOvId.
Anyway, at least you are seeing it, that makes me feel a bit better.
Anyway, at least you are seeing it, that makes me feel a bit better.
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#207
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If you’re going to try and malign an entire generation, at least try to understand who you’re talking about.
I’ve covered for more than one <30year old FO (that’s Gen Z, by the way, Gramps) when tipping the driver. No, I don’t want them to pay me back, I just want them to show up prepared next trip.
Generally curious. When I was a lowly panel guy sitting sideways making squat as a new hire here, I tipped. Because that was prudent and expected of us as professionals. Now?
#208
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YGTBFKM with this BS. Van drivers are paid to drive us from A to B safely and on time. I don't know what it is, but it's at least minimum wage. Tip them if you want to, but thinking it's required it's the most asinine bull**** I've ever seen.
You think they deserve a tip because 5-15 of your lives are in their hands? We have 100-350 lives in our hands every flight, where are our tips? GTFO with your BS. You're tipping them because you've been indoctrinated to the American tipping culture BS designed to let their boss pay them less. That's it.
Yes, I tip van drivers when they toss my bags. I still think it's completely F'd up to do so.
You think they deserve a tip because 5-15 of your lives are in their hands? We have 100-350 lives in our hands every flight, where are our tips? GTFO with your BS. You're tipping them because you've been indoctrinated to the American tipping culture BS designed to let their boss pay them less. That's it.
Yes, I tip van drivers when they toss my bags. I still think it's completely F'd up to do so.
Also, "getting" my bags? They are literally lifting them 3 feet from the ground to the van, and doing the reverse at destination. It feels similarly hollow to tip for that reason.
I have no doubt Skyhop and other transportation companies pay the drivers $X less per hour because they assume $X per hour in tips, so yes we are subsidizing their wages to a certain extent.
Tipping culture is out of control here in the U.S, and .I have no doubt more and more employers have it in their compensation calculus.
That being said, I tip the drivers $2 each way ($1 per bag) out of rote habit and because it's what everyone else does, NOT some gratitude or altruism or sense of professionalism.
I WILL tip $10 for above and beyond things like dropping me at employee parking on a JFK/LGA intra airport transfer.
I don't care whether others tip or not (although I DO judge them in my head for nonconformity 🤣

Im always happy and willing to spot (not even "lend") an FO $2 if they're out of singles or can't make change.
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#209
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Well that sort of makes it company policy then...which means Delta should reimburse us for van driver tips.
#210
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So glad that there are so many interesting threads on this forum.
Seriously, though, you guys need to get out in the world a bit, maybe do some service work. Certainly you have more potential than to ***** at each other about tips, or perhaps not.
Seriously, though, you guys need to get out in the world a bit, maybe do some service work. Certainly you have more potential than to ***** at each other about tips, or perhaps not.
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