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Carl,
I really don't want to get into the middle of this but I have a question/point with regards to the above.
Come on in Denny, the water's warm!
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It sounds like you are saying we (ALPA) cannot influence RJ operators directly into lowering their block hours to remain with the ratio if mainline reduces flying. This may be techically true but........
No, we (ALPA) could definitely attempt to influence them. But they would be under no legal obligation to succumb to our influence because they don't sign our contract. Until they do, compliance is voluntary on their part. The language itself doesn't even say "...then the RJ airlines SHALL pull down their block hours...", it says: 'Delta will execute its
plan to bring RJ block hours in compliance with the ratios..." Why is it written that way? Because we can only force our company to do something because it is our company who signs our contract. But does the RJ airline have to act on our company's plan? Absolutely not.
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As signatores of a contract with Delta Air Lines, we DO have influence with them.
Not unless that contract legally binds said RJ airline to our pilot contract. If such a signed document exists, it is imperative to see that document before we vote on this TA.
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Here is my question: If the block hour ratio went out of balance, we grieved and won, wouldn't/couldn't Delta be forced to remove it's code from a DCI carrier to get back in the ratio balance (ala Independence Air) if the DCI carriers refused to lower their block hours?
Delta being forced to remove it's code share from the offending DCI is a possible outcome from an arbitrator. The arbitrator could also find that the RLA does not allow for the contract of one airline to remove jobs that BELONG to another airline.
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In retrospect, this is also a question for Slowplay...
Hope I'm not stirring the hornet's nest here.
Denny
This is soooo cool.
Getting to vote on this TA...Cost Neutral
Getting to have a legal discussion with DennyCrane...Priceless
Carl