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Old 07-04-2012, 01:53 PM
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New TA question: When does the "positive space on DCI for off-rotation deadheads" start? My understanding of this is that I will be able to book PS on DCI the same way I now can on DAL, 14 days before rotation starts, for deviating deadhead at the start. i read the TA timeline that came out and it only has one blurb on section 8 Deadheading that says "Sep 1 Enhanced seat assignment program for deadheading"... this sounds like the new priority list for aisle seats/exit rows, and not the PS thing?

Anyone know? It's almost the only thing I was excited about in the TA, I'm gonna be so irked if it doesn't happen rapidly
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:26 PM
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Happy 4th APC!
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:29 PM
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Happy 4th brothers! Hanging with the family at the in-laws and grilling my ass off!
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit View Post
YES! It was in my survey too. It'd be a nice to see in the next TOT or SOT. It is a very tough sell to the guys already on property that want to see more restoration.
Agree with both of you (although I don't think it is high on most surveys - I forgot this one). Remember that at least 1st year pay is much better (it was $2K/month back in 2001).
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:53 PM
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Happy 4th brothers! Hanging with the family at the in-laws and grilling my ass off!
Same...went out and blew my raise on a big green egg
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:32 PM
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Heck, every regional in the us pays for hotel rooms.
Yes, at double occupancy.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 View Post
America!

God Bless this fine country.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:33 PM
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Happy Dependence Day!!!

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Old 07-04-2012, 06:37 PM
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Happy Dependence Day!!!

Mmmmmmmm.........Kate...............
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90 View Post
I had hoped that this contract would cover hotel costs for new hires in initial flight training, but I don't think it was addressed. It was one of my comments in the contract survey. They're cash-strapped as it is, and just because we had to do it doesn't make it right, or not worth changing, and yes I would be willing to give something up for that.
I think you could argue that no contract invests quite as much in newhires as this contract, because it's designed to create newhire positions, both in terms of early outs, and in terms on 717's. Whether it pans out that way is another question, but meanwhile, consider that the pain of the training crashpad is short-lived, while the pain of insufficient per diem, or the pain of paying for uniforms and supplies goes on forever. Want to help newhires by an equivalent amount? Give all Delta pilots an allowance at the Flight Station each year, or cash, and give us all per diem that doesn't cause us to subsidize our jobs.

I also think the last thing newhires want is something that causes bean-counters to view them as being proportionately more expensive than they are now. You essentially want Delta to be thrilled with the relatively low cost of newhires, and bring on as many as possible.

I know we all assume the number of newhires is fixed, and the company will pick the minimum, but I wouldn't be surprised if they add up total costs and somehow decide to get less than the minimum. One of the reasons I think tiny costs influence those decisions is the fact they ask whether you need hotel rooms in trianing while you fill out AE preferences. Part of me supsects that this is a factor in tweaking backfill awards.

Your heart is in the right place, but I think this is a case where good intentions might actually backfire for the intended recipient.
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