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Boomer 08-25-2012 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1251509)
B-2 was a Northrop / Grumman project. The B-1 had no mission, Carter was right, at least as far as that project went. Reagan provided jobs building something we did not need.

Do you recall how a Cessna C172 enabled Glasnost?

Rudy and Red Square? I soloed that guy.

Bucking Bar 08-25-2012 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1251508)
Lockheed, my brothers, Lockheed.
C121
C130
C141
C5

And F104. Killed more Germans than the French Resistance.

Boomer 08-25-2012 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1251506)
damnit, I'm going to have to go wiki and see if s-3s really sunk Iraqi ships with budy refueling pods...

You can search under DB-107 Buddy Pack.

Yes, Bar, another Douglas product. :eek:

buzzpat 08-25-2012 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1251509)
B-2 was a Northrop / Grumman project. The B-1 had no mission, Carter was right, at least as far as that project went. Reagan provided jobs building something we did not need.

Actually, the "advanced technology bomber" project that was started under Carter and scrubbed then became the "advanced technology bomber" under Reagan that evolved into the B-2. Those jobs that Carter wanted to do away with were transitioned to jobs that developed the B-2, F-117 and C-17. It was initially a Northrop/Grumman venture that later involved Boeing and did utilize the Skunkworks. The F-117 was also born from the same research and development. Boeing, as you know, acquired MD and development for their existing projects, including today's C-17.

Timbo 08-25-2012 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1251512)
And F104. Killed more Germans than the French Resistance.


That's funny! I remember being at Ramstein one time and they had some F104's on the ramp, one didn't look right, it was a two seater, so I walked over to get a closer look and the landing gear was a mess. I asked about it in Ops. and the local behind the desk said, "Yeah, a student had a problem landing it, went off the end..."

I think someone said final bug speed on the 104 was always over 165...?

Nice, if you have a long, dry runway!

80ktsClamp 08-25-2012 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1251517)
I think someone said final bug speed on the 104 was always over 165...?

Nice, if you have a long, dry runway!

Sounds like a 737-900!

That's a McD product, right?

buzzpat 08-25-2012 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1251512)
And F104. Killed more Germans than the French Resistance.

OK.......:confused:

buzzpat 08-25-2012 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1251519)
Sounds like a 737-900!

That's a McD product, right?

Pretty close. Good brakes though......I hope.

Boomer 08-25-2012 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1251510)
Rudy and Red Square? I soloed that guy.

Sorry, meant to say Mathias Rust. I called him Rudy when we planned his little cross-country caper.

80ktsClamp 08-25-2012 09:07 PM

I wanted to make this separate from the political-ish mumbo jumbo:

RIP Neil Armstrong. The true definition of a beyond world class pilot and astounding humility.


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