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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1251488)
Ben Rich, in his book about running Skunkworks for Lockheed said after Jimmy Carter was briefed in on stealth he realized the B-1 was already obsolete. Reagan made Carter look soft for cancelling the B-1. However the real difference was that Carter had a Top Secret clearance and Reagan did not. Carter could not talk about the future he knew was coming.
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Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1251489)
The B-1 was on Nuke alert and the Navy couldn't spare them for conventional bombing in 1991. CCCP and all that.
BTW, Carter cancelling the Bone taught me my first lesson in political parties. And in 1981, when Reagan fired all the ATC guys, and then when Bush 1 looked the other way, while his best buddy and campaign contributer, Frank Lorenzo, took Continental and Eastern apart, taught me mine... Fking Politicians. I hate them all, especially the ones who never served. The best bumper sticker I've seen said, Don't Re Elect ANYONE! With 42,000 registered lobbiests in DC, is it any wonder we have the best Government Money Can Buy? |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1251491)
I actually met Buzz Aldrin a few years ago on the set of Fox & Friends. I was honored and told him so.
And Bar... The Saturn V 3rd stage? Douglas. |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 1251489)
The B-1 was on Nuke alert and the Navy couldn't spare them for conventional bombing in 1991. CCCP and all that.
BTW, Carter cancelling the Bone taught me my first lesson in political parties. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1251501)
Yeah, they served so well in the Coast Guard, and then in the Civil Air Patrol. Their combat record is only matched by the S3.
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[QUOTE=Bucking Bar;1251496]Since he wrote "Apolo" instead of Apollo, I thought he was referring to Dancing With the Stars.
Hey, my spelling's bad, but my typing's Worse! Especially ater midnight, after a full day of hurricane prep, and after a few Rummies! :D You want to hear something really funny? My Mom was a high school English Teacher! I drove her to an early retirement! I was always a 'numbers' guy. BUT...when I was 8, she got her Private Pilot License, and she owned a Beech Muskateer with 3 other AF guys! I got to fly it a little from the right seat, when I was 9. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1251494)
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damnit, I'm going to have to go wiki and see if s-3s really sunk Iraqi ships with budy refueling pods...
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1251484)
F-15s = McDonnell Douglas
F-18s = McDonnell Douglas F-117s = McDonnell Douglas MD-88s = McDonnell Douglas MD-11 = McDonnell Douglas L1011 = McDonnell Douglas P-51 = McDonnell Douglas B-17 = McDonnell Douglas. Read it and weep Bar, read it and weep. C121 C130 C141 C5 |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1251498)
Partially true, but not all of the story. Carter was committed to gutting defense and the B-1 was an easy target. Reagan campaigned on a strong defense and realized the potential of stealth shortly after taking office, therefore, the B-2 and the stealth fighter. Both, also developed at Skunkworks.
Do you recall how a Cessna C172 enabled Glasnost & brought down the Russian Empire? |
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