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What 76drvr is trying to say is that the company could have gotten unlimited 70 seat props.... even though they parked all their 70 seat props a few years ago and have no desire to get new ones. :rolleyes:

It was good that they wrapped that clause up on the powerplant, but like most other things with the TA, the givebacks (i.e. gaining 70 jumbo RJs without having to park any 70-seat jets, which of course the company wants) make good effort on outweighing the gains.

forgot to bid

09-07-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1257595)

I might be easily convinced to trade in all 325 jumbo RJs for unlimited ATR 72s. :D

scambo1

09-07-2012 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1257443)

And.........? Don't tell me you are falling victim to ftb's points. I thought you were smarter than that.

The real qestion is why did we get a fast tracked contract. The RJs don't fully explain it - unless...

You tell us since you think you've got it figured out.

It sure as hell didn't have anything to do with 717s.

Splain us how smart you are.

76drvr

09-07-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1257453)

Note that the projected fleet count is well below what it would have had to be for DCI to get 70 more jumbo RJs.

88 growth airplanes? Nope! Only a few more than what we had when we merged.

Are you sure about that? I count 791 as the number that would authorize 70 more 76-seat RJs. But math in public is hazardous. So what number do you get to that would authorize 70 more 76-seat RJs?

Of course under the old contract they could immediately park the mainline airplanes after delivery and there was no block hour ratio.

76drvr

09-07-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1257459)

Ah, Bill.....How I've missed you.;)

Who's Bill? :confused:

LocoLizer

09-07-2012 02:37 PM

Okay let me be a bit more specific. When is the window that is open today, August 07, 2012, going to close...

76drvr

09-07-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1257514)

70 seat RJs were not unlimited. They were included in the 255 cap as a large RJ is defined as 51-76 seats.

Pay attention, read your old contract, then comeback with the right answer to how many 70-seat aircraft the company could operate under the old PWA.

76drvr

09-07-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1257513)

You do realize you're making yourself look quite foolish?

Nahhh.. you don't. Keep at it!

That's all you got?

This is like shooting fish in a barrel. :D

76drvr

09-07-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1257577)

That really does need to be repeated. I'm amazed at how many don't understand the fleet count with regards to the TA.

Yup. He sure missed on that one.

76drvr

09-07-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1257594)

You realize you got debunked in the TA threads with this one? Or you just choosing to forget about that?

Not debunked at all. The fact is they had unlimited capacity available to them at DCI. They had unlimited 70-seat aircraft available to them at DCI. The fact that your narrow view of scope hinders your ability to recognize that doesn't debunk those facts.

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