Originally Posted by 76drvr (Post 1257681)

Are you a moderator? If so, should a moderator be tossing around personal insults? "kool-aid man"? Really? Does APC have shills as moderators?

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1257707)

Well pay, scope, work rules, retirement, yadda yadda and all that. But I don't see the FT/DT as an opportunity to mine very much of anything. Clearly the company will want relief the current contractual 3/4 man crew parameters so they can trash the operation by pushing the limits for the extra hour. Legal to start, legal to fin...wait, we're not legal to finish? Oh crap, now what do we do!

But I really don't think we should give that up, and I double secret really don't think we'll get much if anything in return for it. Especially when a single issue mid contract item like that would only deliver partial gains compared to the losses, otherwise they wouldn't bother worrying with it in the first place. The company will only want that for one reason: to reduce pilot headcount. Anything we get for that one reason will be limited by the value of that, and odds are quite a bit less, otherwise the company wouldn't bother to begin with.

But if we're playing this game anyway, I want language forbidding the renewal of half of the upcoming large jet DCI contracts, the 5 99.9K lbs DPJ flown by current DL seniority list pilots (the contractors who were illegally flying them before we won the grieveance can be stapled behind the next 500 new hires and they can fly them when they can hold them) and a 5 hour vacation day.

Oh, and for every flight that times out because they chose to run it with a zero cushion "looks good on paper" block hour increase when there is the slightest delay anywhere, DALPA gets a one million dollar "see I told you so" penalty to offset member dues and eventually to distribute evenly among the pilot group when it fully funds the budget.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1257672)

He's a C44 kool-aid man and was wanting to gloat over the SEC filing.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1257718)

Wow... really?

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1257657)

Yeah, it's a representative association that conducts the business of the Delta pilots. You know, things like contract value, pay, benefits, scope, etc. Minor business items like that.;)

I note that you chose to ignore APA and didn't provide any examples of FtB's idea in a successful operation.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1257533)

Large RJs(that's 76 seat AND 70 seat aircraft) were LIMITED to 255. Off those 255, 153 were permitted to be 76 seaters. 70 seat RJs were NOT unlimited!!!

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1257725)

Yes. See PM.

http://www.x-entertainment.com/pics/kool1.jpg

Regards,

A shill (of ????)

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1257726)

Slow, care to give some reasons why the pilots shouldn't be allowed to directly vote for their MEC Chairman?

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1257734)

Do Capos get to vote for Dons? Did Paulie or Sil get to vote for Tony's Uncle Junior?

In the He-man women haters club, who voted for Spanky?