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TheTriColor 09-10-2012 07:33 AM

I'm sure this has been discussed at great length but a question for everyone.....I am on short call again tomorrow for the 4th time already. I have no problem with that at all since I understand it's my job, but the issue I have is that we have about 40 guys on reserve, and there are about 15 other guys in my 4 day bucket who have sat ZERO shortcalls this month!
What gives!? I mean, I thought they were supposed to have shortcall buckets as well...ie...if days of availability are the same, they won't give the junior guy 6 SC's before they give a senior guy 1. I have obviously misunderstood how this system is supposed to work. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Bucking Bar 09-10-2012 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1258700)
The "bad" behavior Sailing describes is fraud - pure and simple and should not be tolerated. But this behavior is not limited to MIL LV but also includes:

Fraudulent Scam Divorces
Faking disability
Fraudulent dependents
And probably a dozen or more scams that we can't even think of.

Look at the big picture guys.

Scoop

http://www.acmewebpages.com/karen_a/...kaanimal06.jpg
You mean that picture on the wall isn't your Niece?

TeddyKGB 09-10-2012 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1258707)
Have you actually looked at the bid package in the appropriate section? Around page 19 or 20, there is a large chart with every category, and a column with YES or NO. It says whether there is an extra X day or not.

Thanks. Found it. The initial chart you referred us to was the wrong chart so thanks for fixing your post and steering us to the correct place.

iaflyer 09-10-2012 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1258714)
Thanks. Found it. The initial chart you referred us to was the wrong chart so thanks for fixing your post and steering us to the correct place.

Yes I had the page number wrong, I didn't have the bid package in front of me, and was going by memory. Glad we all figured it out!

My bid category is only at 18%, so no extra day for me. Haven't flown yet so it's no big deal.

jabwmu 09-10-2012 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by TheTriColor (Post 1258709)
I'm sure this has been discussed at great length but a question for everyone.....I am on short call again tomorrow for the 4th time already. I have no problem with that at all since I understand it's my job, but the issue I have is that we have about 40 guys on reserve, and there are about 15 other guys in my 4 day bucket who have sat ZERO shortcalls this month!
What gives!? I mean, I thought they were supposed to have shortcall buckets as well...ie...if days of availability are the same, they won't give the junior guy 6 SC's before they give a senior guy 1. I have obviously misunderstood how this system is supposed to work. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I've had this same problem. Are you on short call today? If so is it a later RAP period (after 9am)? Unfortunately they probably pulled the availibility list before you started your third short call. If you change your preferences to sit an earlier short call I think that should help.

I like later RAP periods so have to change my preferences as soon as I'm assigned my third short call. The system is flawed IMO. Hope that helps.

TheTriColor 09-10-2012 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1258735)
I've had this same problem. Are you on short call today? If so is it a later RAP period (after 9am)? Unfortunately they probably pulled the availibility list before you started your third short call. If you change your preferences to sit an earlier short call I think that should help.

I like later RAP periods so have to change my preferences as soon as I'm assigned my third short call. The system is flawed IMO. Hope that helps.

Not on short call today. Tomorrow is my first day of availability. I could understand it if we were understaffed, but we have tons of guys with zero SC's in my same availability bucket. I can't help feeling that I'm getting screwed, if that makes any sense. I'm not complaining just don't understand how I could be on my 4th SC, while there are guys with the same days of availability with zero SC's. Makes no sense at all.
I may have to change my preferences too. Thanks for the info

The Cavalier 09-10-2012 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by TheTriColor (Post 1258739)
Not on short call today. Tomorrow is my first day of availability. I could understand it if we were understaffed, but we have tons of guys with zero SC's in my same availability bucket. I can't help feeling that I'm getting screwed, if that makes any sense. I'm not complaining just don't understand how I could be on my 4th SC, while there are guys with the same days of availability with zero SC's. Makes no sense at all.
I may have to change my preferences too. Thanks for the info

Have they been flying while you've been sitting SC? Honestly the new SC assignment system is the one part of the new reserve system that I like. It needs some tweaking but it's a good start.

jabwmu 09-10-2012 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by TheTriColor (Post 1258739)
Not on short call today. Tomorrow is my first day of availability. I could understand it if we were understaffed, but we have tons of guys with zero SC's in my same availability bucket. I can't help feeling that I'm getting screwed, if that makes any sense. I'm not complaining just don't understand how I could be on my 4th SC, while there are guys with the same days of availability with zero SC's. Makes no sense at all.
I may have to change my preferences too. Thanks for the info

I don't blame you for feeling screwed. That's garbage if you're not on today. I would call scheduling and ask. If they don't give you a valid reason, talk to a supervisor. It seems like every month I'm having to call them and ask why I got a trip or short call when the contract says otherwise. It's like pulling teeth to get them to seriously look at the situation some times. Good luck, hope they drop your SC. That's not right.

Boomer 09-10-2012 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1258713)
http://www.acmewebpages.com/karen_a/...kaanimal06.jpg
You mean that picture on the wall isn't your Niece?

Karen Allen reaching into the cabinet and flashing undercheek would have been so cool.

Instead we got Donald Sutherland. Ewww...:(

TheTriColor 09-10-2012 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by The Cavalier (Post 1258741)
Have they been flying while you've been sitting SC? Honestly the new SC assignment system is the one part of the new reserve system that I like. It needs some tweaking but it's a good start.

No....but at the same time no one else has flown. That's my issue with it, all things being EQUAL, why do I have 4SC's, and 12-15 other guys/gals have 0. Doesn't make any sense.


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