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Sink r8 09-13-2012 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1260456)
Its real simple.

Carry the pilots agenda forward.

Be willing to do the above when the majority position is not yours

Defend your pilots without any assumptions in the CPO.

Be willing to take the heat to make a difficult call when you cannot share all of the facts, then explain your position as to how you voted and why after the facts are known/after the vote

Be transparent as possible with your pilots, and honest when you can't

Welcome others opinions and points of view. When they are contrarian to yours, do not be dismissive nor isolate them. (Inclusive nature to our business)

As for the minutia on each and every issue, the cheese moves, facts change, and taking a hard line position sets you up to defend your ego/former position or save face when presented with new facts that should change you position. In these situations, seek out direction by providing as many facts without bias to your membership. If the direction comes back different then where you assumed it would, lead by the direction provided to you from your pilots.

You cannot make 100% of the pilots in your base happy. Its impossible. When that happens, be honest with them. I had a chance to sit down with my Vice Chair and have an honest discussion with him a few weeks ago. I may disagree on how a vote went, but an educated well thought out decision is all any of us can ask for. I respect his decision, and it was one he did not make lightly. That is all any of us can ask. Hes a great guy that has done really good work for our pilots. I thank him for taking the time to sit down and have a conversation with me, and for having the ability to think critically.

Good post. If I was in your council, I'd pick your brains on a few forward-looking issues, but I'm good here. Good luck to you.

tsquare 09-13-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1260456)
Its real simple.

Carry the pilots agenda forward.

Be willing to do the above when the majority position is not yours

Defend your pilots without any assumptions in the CPO.

Be willing to take the heat to make a difficult call when you cannot share all of the facts, then explain your position as to how you voted and why after the facts are known/after the vote

Be transparent as possible with your pilots, and honest when you can't

Welcome others opinions and points of view. When they are contrarian to yours, do not be dismissive nor isolate them. (Inclusive nature to our business)

As for the minutia on each and every issue, the cheese moves, facts change, and taking a hard line position sets you up to defend your ego/former position or save face when presented with new facts that should change you position. In these situations, seek out direction by providing as many facts without bias to your membership. If the direction comes back different then where you assumed it would, lead by the direction provided to you from your pilots.

You cannot make 100% of the pilots in your base happy. Its impossible. When that happens, be honest with them. I had a chance to sit down with my Vice Chair and have an honest discussion with him a few weeks ago. I may disagree on how a vote went, but an educated well thought out decision is all any of us can ask for. I respect his decision, and it was one he did not make lightly. That is all any of us can ask. Hes a great guy that has done really good work for our pilots. I thank him for taking the time to sit down and have a conversation with me, and for having the ability to think critically.

Good post. However... your very first sentence set for yourself an extremely high standard. One that I am sure 99% of all guys that ever have done ALPA work have also set for themselves.

Popcorn in the microwave....

iFlyer 09-13-2012 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by XtremeF150 (Post 1260483)
Looks like all the A's are out if you go in the back door. Still no B's.

How do you back door the schedules again?

Thanks, iF

georgetg 09-13-2012 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by iFlyer (Post 1260500)
How do you back door the schedules again?

Thanks, iF

Go to DLNet > Crew resources and Scheduling
Pull up the Previous month's results.
Lets say you are looking at September, then in the URL replace all instances of Sep with Oct making sure to match case...

Voilą

Cheers
George

buzzpat 09-13-2012 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1260505)
Go to DLNet > Crew resources and Scheduling
Pull up the Previous month's results.
Lets say you are looking at September, then in the URL replace all instances of Sep with Oct making sure to match case...

Voilą

Cheers
George

That's how you do it.

There's actually a October Bid Awards link now showing up on DeltaNet but it only has A's so far.

full of luv 09-13-2012 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1260433)
It's a code share. Had an acquaintance just go. She went through Seoul. Took KAL from there. Said it was an easier routing loadwise than NRT.

Would love to go someday.

Spent a few days in Da Nang, great beach, awesome hotel with a world class golf course down the road (with all female caddies to boot).

Spent a couple of days in Hanoi, chaotic and disorganized, but citizens were pleasant, basically ignored you. Everyone has something for sale, at the person level, you would never know that a proxy war between capitalism and communism was ever fought, much less, less than one lifetime ago.
State still controls all of the large industry though, and they never built any highways, so everything is a series of two lane roads going all over. To play golf there at a beautiful resort about 10 miles out of town took about 1.2 hours to get there and back.
Everyone is on mopeds, but they actually drive carefully, unlike most of SE asia where it is aggressive driving rules the day.
Hanoi Hilton (the prison, not the Hanoi City Hilton which we stayed at) is interesting, in Vietnam it's referred to as Hao Lao and most of it is dedicated to the torture the Vietnamese suffered under the French rule. There is one little room dedicated to the amazing treatment of US POW's showing pics of them getting a turkey dinner on Thanksgiving. Quite interesting, as I guess the victor gets to tell the history.
Overall, a great country to visit, came across as exceedingly safe and actually surprisingly welcoming to Americans despite the recent war.
LUV:eek:

Roadkill 09-13-2012 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by iFlyer (Post 1260500)
How do you back door the schedules again?

Thanks, iF

For a moment I thought you asked how the schedule back-doors you, and I was going to say that it just does it naturally via the seniority bidding process ;)

I noticed some A reserve went very senior-- the very last guy in SLC 73NA got a line this time, and the 2nd to last guy in LAX73NA. Hmm, this gets me thinking I may not be bidding this right...

forgot to bid 09-13-2012 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1260517)
That's how you do it.

There's actually a October Bid Awards link now showing up on DeltaNet but it only has A's so far.

Ah shucks, the twice annual Buzzpat vs Newk battle is ON.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8...3ym1o1_500.jpg

newKnow 09-13-2012 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1260580)
Ah shucks, the twice annual Buzzpat vs Newk battle is ON.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8...3ym1o1_500.jpg


Do we (The Bears) actually pay our offensive linemen? :confused:

newKnow 09-13-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1260552)
For a moment I thought you asked how the schedule back-doors you, and I was going to say that it just does it naturally via the seniority bidding process ;)

I noticed some A reserve went very senior-- the very last guy in SLC 73NA got a line this time, and the 2nd to last guy in LAX73NA. Hmm, this gets me thinking I may not be bidding this right...

There is a show that comes on HBO sometimes called, "The Life and Times of Tim." Has anyone seen it?


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