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johnso29 09-27-2012 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1267643)
IMO, DPA cards signalled a dissatisfaction with the DALPA business (non-disclosure agreements, good ole boy network, keep the rank and file in the dark, play I've got a secret, sales jobs, etc.) and the gross ineffectiveness of ALPA national. In some apparent ways, DPA has changed DALPA for the better (I'm still not a fan of NDA's).

However, I think DPA has become irrelevant as a new collective bargaining agent, but retains some relevance as a voice for the permanently disgruntled. If DPA wants real relevance, they need to mobilize their supporters to sway DALPA internals because they are spinning their wheels as a new wannabe union. In that regard, they are irrelevant.


I agree. They're losing steam fast.

buzzpat 09-27-2012 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1267643)
IMO, DPA cards signalled a dissatisfaction with the DALPA business (non-disclosure agreements, good ole boy network, keep the rank and file in the dark, play I've got a secret, sales jobs, etc.) and the gross ineffectiveness of ALPA national. In some apparent ways, DPA has changed DALPA for the better (I'm still not a fan of NDA's).

However, I think DPA has become irrelevant as a new collective bargaining agent, but retains some relevance as a voice for the permanently disgruntled. If DPA wants real relevance, they need to mobilize their supporters to sway DALPA internals because they are spinning their wheels as a new wannabe union. In that regard, they are irrelevant.

Right on, Scambo. I sent my card in initially. It has expired because I see a lame ass effort and most of the communications from DPA seem amateurish. If they are indeed serious and sincere, I need more than tabloid media attempts. I can play that game. I'm a vet, in some regards. Right now, they're not doing it for me.

DeadHead 09-27-2012 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1267643)
IMO, DPA cards signalled a dissatisfaction with the DALPA business (non-disclosure agreements, good ole boy network, keep the rank and file in the dark, play I've got a secret, sales jobs, etc.) and the gross ineffectiveness of ALPA national. In some apparent ways, DPA has changed DALPA for the better (I'm still not a fan of NDA's).

However, I think DPA has become irrelevant as a new collective bargaining agent, but retains some relevance as a voice for the permanently disgruntled. If DPA wants real relevance, they need to mobilize their supporters to sway DALPA internals because they are spinning their wheels as a new wannabe union. In that regard, they are irrelevant.

Ironic thing is that even if DPA gets enough cards to run a vote, I seriously don't see it even having a chance of passing.

The whole ALPA forced abortion talk killed it for me.

scambo1 09-27-2012 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1267687)
I agree. They're losing steam fast.

Grammer sheriff:


There loosing:D

johnso29 09-27-2012 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1267696)
Grammer sheriff:


There loosing:D

Due to my consumption of a New Holland Dragon's Milk, I almost fell for that. :p:D

buzzpat 09-27-2012 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1267693)
Ironic thing is that even if DPA gets enough cards to run a vote, I seriously don't see it even having a chance of passing.

The whole ALPA forced abortion talk killed it for me.

Bingo DH. That's among the truly amateurish communication strategies that turned me off completely. Somebody at DPA needs to have a better handle on social media. So far, it's been amazingly lacking. I'm not saying Buzz H. is the greatest either. Really, lacking on both sides.

buzzpat 09-27-2012 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1267696)
Grammer sheriff:


There loosing:D

Don't you have some bounces in the sim to accomplish Scambo?:D

scambo1 09-27-2012 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1267693)
Ironic thing is that even if DPA gets enough cards to run a vote, I seriously don't see it even having a chance of passing.

The whole ALPA forced abortion talk killed it for me.

That was a crisis du jour fo sure. I gave them a pass on that to a degree mostly because TC is an organizer and only a temporary spokesmodel. However, while I generally agree with the concept of an in-house, I found that when I talked with DPA hard-cores, they were mostly fabricating overblown examples.

Caveat; I often find what Jack Bauer says to be largely on point and I almost always agree with FTB.:eek:

scambo1 09-27-2012 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1267702)
Don't you have some bounces in the sim to accomplish Scambo?:D


Nein Mandingo, I gots my landings.

johnso29 09-27-2012 07:23 PM

Three 50+ yard FGs for the Browns tonight! :eek:


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