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Roadkill 09-27-2012 11:20 PM

Denny-
Thanks much for the answer, it makes sense and was what I was hoping for. I'm trying to figure out what to bid for Nov CQ and still have a good chance for Thanksgiving off etc...
By the way, I've always enjoyed your posts, which I'll throw out there since we're the only two up right now. Hope you're enjoying yourself up there. I know a guy who is thinking about bidding into your cat, and he'd be the plug... how much flying are you getting, how much use on reserve?
Thanks again!

scambo1 09-27-2012 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1267726)
So does this mean the people that were disappointed in ALPA, and remain otherwise unimpressed with DPA are going to translate into more participation in council meetings, and more assertive participation in the union's direction, or will it pretty much be fifteen guys at the meeting, and the rest exercise their authority over the union via APC, and soothe their anger by lecturing the other guy that's stuck in the cockpit?

So what's your point?:D

It's not easy to be at a meeting when you commute. I like the webcast idea. I dont go to every session of congress either.

I volunteered for the R&I committee several years ago. I was carried on their books for two years. Not once did I get a call for anything.

I write my reps and feel represented by them. There have been tremendous strides at the LEC level post-DPA-startup. At the same time, with the most recent TA as an example, I don't think anyone can say that pilot direction was followed.

N9373M 09-28-2012 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1267737)
Pilot shortage? What pilot shortage? :cool:

Girl's First Solo in Cockpit

Nice vid. Love the looks on her face. Too bad shirt tails are cut rather than fronts. :)

The Cavalier 09-28-2012 04:06 AM

DPA is proving to be incompetent. I sent in a card because DALPA tends to drive me crazy, especially during the latest contract infomercial, and I support the basic concept of an in house union that isn't appart of the national RJ union. I don't know if I could vote for them in a drive. Make no mistake though, DALPA still has little of my support.

Bucking Bar 09-28-2012 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1267554)
Did the contract change anything on the under 50 seat aircraft? I suspect this has a lot more to do with the slot swap where we picked up a lot of cities that USAIR served with small turbo props. We promised to keep serving those cities. They now have a baseline on which markets are losers with larger aircraft. Keep in mind that most of the passengers these small aircraft bring into LGA will connect to mainline aircraft. We are also upgauging markets that are doing well. CLT just picked up a mainline A319 replacing one of the RJ's. We have never had mainline service LGA to CLT.

We had a turboprop operation we just shut down. Delta management made the decision to replace them with an airline, run by an hedge fund, which currently has the worst operational performance in our nation; an airline that its POI insisted be shut down.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1267621)
Yowza! The NFL brand is getting tarnished real quick.

What about our brand?

Just after our newest "partner" got the largest maintenance related fine in FAA history, the airline we sold Compass to topped it!

Commuter-airline operator Trans States Holdings Inc., already under heightened federal scrutiny for two safety incidents in four months, now faces a proposed $2.5 million civil penalty for a litany of maintenance lapses years earlier.

johnso29 09-28-2012 05:50 AM

Agreed Bar. Delta management has made it clear safety is not a priority.

bohicagain 09-28-2012 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1267820)
We had a turboprop operation we just shut down. Delta management made the decision to replace them with a non union airline, run by an EAL scab, which currently has the worst operational performance in our nation, an airline that its POI insisted be shut down.What about our brand?

Just after our newest "partner" got the largest maintenance related fine in FAA history, the airline we sold Compass to topped it!


Bad call, I say, Bad call.

Couple of things. They are unionized by the teamsters and the Scab is no longer in charge from what I recall but I totally agree with the principle behind it. Safety is not 1st isn't a distant 3rd

Bucking Bar 09-28-2012 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by The Cavalier (Post 1267782)
DPA is proving to be incompetent. I sent in a card because DALPA tends to drive me crazy, especially during the latest contract infomercial, and I support the basic concept of an in house union that isn't appart of the national RJ union. I don't know if I could vote for them in a drive. Make no mistake though, DALPA still has little of my support.

Cavalier,

Think about what you wrote and please respond. Tell me of one example where your alleged "national RJ union" made a single decision which favored "RJ" operators over mainline members, just one.

In reality our national union took the side of mainline pilots and got sued for their trouble. ALPA defended the exclusivity of the Delta MEC to negotiate with Delta management, thwarting members at ASA and Comair who had their scope vanish as they were acquired by another carrier, yet were unable to bind that carrier to a contract (scope) of their own. Comair is gone, ASA no longer exists, having been acquired by a non union carrier, merged in with COEX's operation and now operates under their name.

Our national union just signed off on a contract which provides for the recovery of flying to mainline, for every ALPA contract must bear the signature of ALPA's President (credit to our MEC and negotiators though).

The DPA targeted a nonexistent threat. It was based on emotion, false perceptions and feelings. Without an objective, fact based, reason for being it was surely doomed to failure.

Hope those who supported the DPA will use their energy to support ALPA and change things for the better with their participation.

XtremeF150 09-28-2012 06:05 AM

Hey one of you 765 guys know what is up with the extra segment coming from FRA-ATL today.
I was watching it because I was kicking around going over but it is one of the optimized segments and I am trying to gauge if the nonrevs usually make it on. That pop up about possibly not boarding nonrevs even if there are seats causes some concern. Any of you guys that fly that route have any info on how often this is the case?

Bucking Bar 09-28-2012 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by bohicagain (Post 1267831)
Couple of things. They are unionized by the teamsters and the Scab is no longer in charge from what I recall but I totally agree with the principle behind it. Safety is not 1st isn't a distant 3rd

I'll have to double check the Teamsters thing, although after what they did at GoJets, I don't count them as a "union."

While researching your response I had to chuckle at one of their interview questions.


Originally Posted by Silver Air Chief Pilot
Are you OK with making $1,500 a month?



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