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Bucking Bar 11-27-2012 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1299767)
So that's why it felt like we landed on a Chinese aircraft carrier. That was fun...

Cool that they put a half pipe on it for the skateboarding Chinese teens.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...r-liaoning.jpg

http://radcollector.com/columns/andr.../2010/05/4.jpg

TenYearsGone 11-27-2012 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by kamsman (Post 1299739)
Going to training and received manuals in mail. The USB drive thats required for systems validation says its only compatible with windows. How do guys with Macs get around this? Thanks

K,

Boot camp-->Press option and the power button. Your Mac will give you an option to start it in Windows mode.

But first you need to partition the system and download or install a windows package.

This is relatively easy. The macs have boot camp built in. You can pay for Parallels (Parallels allows you to access windows instantaneously).

TEN

gloopy 11-27-2012 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1299658)

And ending up on national public video/picture/social media feeds is reason number 5 million why the overwhelming vast supermajority of pilots will ignore this new "rule" far, far more often than obeying it.

The real issue of all this is flt ops getting taken down yet another notch by soon to be gate agents thinking we owe them to make announcements and writing up pilots that don't. That will make for an extremely hostile work environment where far more CYA goes on than actually running the operation and serving the customer.

This is an absolutely horrible, poorly thought out universal implimentation of a good idea in theory. It will be disobeyed literally over 90% of the time. The real question is what will the blowback be. Employees writing each other up constantly? Carpet dance bullying attempts? Departmental turf wars? CYA instead of running the operation?

RepublicofTexas 11-27-2012 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1299879)
And ending up on national public video/picture/social media feeds is reason number 5 million why the overwhelming vast supermajority of pilots will ignore this new "rule" far, far more often than obeying it.

The real issue of all this is flt ops getting taken down yet another notch by soon to be gate agents thinking we owe them to make announcements and writing up pilots that don't. That will make for an extremely hostile work environment where far more CYA goes on than actually running the operation and serving the customer.

This is an absolutely horrible, poorly thought out universal implimentation of a good idea in theory. It will be disobeyed literally over 90% of the time. The real question is what will the blowback be. Employees writing each other up constantly? Carpet dance bullying attempts? Departmental turf wars? CYA instead of running the operation?


Remind me again what the FOB says. Does it say, "Will" or "Should" Is this a rewash of 7.5?

"Will" would mean a change in the job description,

"Should" is a suggestion.

Elvis90 11-27-2012 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1299879)
And ending up on national public video/picture/social media feeds is reason number 5 million why the overwhelming vast supermajority of pilots will ignore this new "rule" far, far more often than obeying it.

The real issue of all this is flt ops getting taken down yet another notch by soon to be gate agents thinking we owe them to make announcements and writing up pilots that don't. That will make for an extremely hostile work environment where far more CYA goes on than actually running the operation and serving the customer.

This is an absolutely horrible, poorly thought out universal implimentation of a good idea in theory. It will be disobeyed literally over 90% of the time. The real question is what will the blowback be. Employees writing each other up constantly? Carpet dance bullying attempts? Departmental turf wars? CYA instead of running the operation?

I think this FOM change regarding PA's will be changed or deleted due to lack of interest. It just can't be enforced with the sheer number of flights we have everyday. I think the right answer is that it's a recommendation that passengers appreciate, but making it a "thou shalt...", regardless of any common sense, will not win over the pilot group.

80ktsClamp 11-27-2012 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1299912)
I think this FOM change regarding PA's will be changed or deleted due to lack of interest. It just can't be enforced with the sheer number of flights we have everyday. I think the right answer is that it's a recommendation that passengers appreciate, but making it a "thou shalt...", regardless of any common sense, will not win over the pilot group.

True. Look at the most recent checklist change allowing analyization of the WDR during push and aircraft movement. They realized no one was complying with it anyways and conformed the new policy to what was real world functional.

SailorJerry 11-27-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1299938)

True. Look at the most recent checklist change allowing analyization of the WDR during push and aircraft movement. They realized no one was complying with it anyways and conformed the new policy to what was real world functional.

Just wait until someone bails off a taxiway at 12kts with a WDR on their yoke clip. The procedure states the WDR has to be analyzed while the Captain is NOT taxiing the airplane. The suggestion that they can't/won't make in Vol I is to let the FO taxi. While the CA is doing his super top secret WDR verification and analysis, I mean.

80ktsClamp 11-27-2012 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1299945)
Just wait until someone bails off a taxiway at 12kts with a WDR on their yoke clip. The procedure states the WDR has to be analyzed while the Captain is NOT taxiing the airplane. The suggestion that they can't/won't make in Vol I is to let the FO taxi. While the CA is doing his super top secret WDR verification and analysis, I mean.

I knew right after I hit post that someone would call me out on that!

Personally, I see zero reason why, once under way, the FO shouldnt be able to do the analysis. We do it on runway change already.

The new policy works well with the Airbus since it has dual tillers... so it's got that going for it, haha.

SailorJerry 11-27-2012 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1299961)

I knew right after I hit post that someone would call me out on that!

Personally, I see zero reason why, once under way, the FO shouldnt be able to do the analysis. We do it on runway change already.

The new policy works well with the Airbus since it has dual tillers... so it's got that going for it, haha.

You knew it'd be me too.

I think whoever doesn't do the gate house delay announcements should have to analyze the WDR.

johnso29 11-27-2012 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1299945)
Just wait until someone bails off a taxiway at 12kts with a WDR on their yoke clip. The procedure states the WDR has to be analyzed while the Captain is NOT taxiing the airplane. The suggestion that they can't/won't make in Vol I is to let the FO taxi. While the CA is doing his super top secret WDR verification and analysis, I mean.

Unless something has recently changed, the FO IS allowed to taxi the airplane. I guess I'd better do a refresher to make sure.


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