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Columbia 09-30-2012 07:48 AM

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TenYearsGone 09-30-2012 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1268854)
The 30/31 paycheck is an advance for the following month. So the 9/30 check was an advance for 1/2 of the guarantee of October. If you're on reserve, the difference will be quite a bit considering the drop in ALV's.

Johnso,

So the 10/15 pay will be the cleanup for September?

Having a brain fart. Thanks.

Columbia 09-30-2012 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1268854)
The 30/31 paycheck is an advance for the following month. So the 9/30 check was an advance for 1/2 of the guarantee of October. If you're on reserve, the difference will be quite a bit considering the drop in ALV's.

I think the Sep 30/ paycheck (on the 28th) is for the first half of Sept (1/2 of reserve guarantee for reserve). I say this because I had a pay jump in Sept and the Sept 28th check is the first check that reflected the higher pay rate. Oct 15 will then reflect the remainder of September.
If what you are saying is true, I.e. the last day is an advance, then we'll all see January 2013s pay raise on Dec 31, which I doubt will be seen until Jan 31.

TenYearsGone 09-30-2012 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1268867)
I think the Sep 30/ paycheck (on the 28th) is for the first half of Sept (1/2 of reserve guarantee for reserve). I say this because I had a pay jump in Sept and the Sept 28th check is the first check that reflected the higher pay rate. Oct 15 will then reflect the remainder of September.
If what you are saying is true, I.e. the last day is an advance, then we'll all see January 2013s pay raise on Dec 31, which I doubt will be seen until Jan 31.

Ok, this might jive with what I am seeing. Makes sense. 30th (9/28) check is the $$ from the first half of the month (9/1-9/15). The subsequent check on the 15th (10/15) is the cleanup of the previous month (9/16-9/30).

TEN

newKnow 09-30-2012 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1268607)
Every day is a great day where you're from. The weather knows not to mess with you!



That'll come next week!:D

47%!

What's funny is there has been two times this year where I looked at the national radar and found the only place on the map where there was a cell was; 1.) where I was flying into and, 2.) where I was. The weather has not gotten the memo.

I can't wait until next week. I love secret videos. Acl, should just deny it was him. :)

SailorJerry 09-30-2012 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1268810)
Not taken as an "excuse," but when pilots are brought up in a culture which encourages pilot pushing they become used to it. At these airlines the Captains who take the risks are heroes until they break something or get regulatory attention. Then management sacrifices the Captain's certificate to get the FAA off their back, but continues pushing the next guy. This is why our union pushes back for "One Level of Safety" across the board.

As others have mentioned, a union which is conflicted about outsourcing loses focus on its core mission. It is impossible to take the moral high ground on safety, while out the back door you agree with management to facilitate outsourcing.

While I do not speak on behalf any of the candidates, a reason I support Dave Nestor and Chad Smith is my impression that they "get" ALPA's mission and are clearly focused on the foundational principles on which our association was built.* **

Besides, at some level, Delta has the same interest that we do. Operating a safe airline is priority number 1. We share common ground here.

* I'm no Expert on the matter, JMHO.
** I think Armando Gomez gets it too, but as an incumbent he's already vetted and qualified by the record of his actions.

ALPA can't change the safety culture of an airline by itself. Safety and politics, within each airline, need to be kept entirely separate, otherwise you'll have hostages on both sides of the field and you'll be sacrificing safety while you try to keep the company from signing another La Quinta contract.

Let the safety folks do their work, let the political folks do their work.

BUT!

The political side of the union is the side that has to empower pilots to feel secure knowing their safety related decisions will be supported. At DAL, ala SMS, we get "stop the operation. We'll back you 100%". In other words, we have the support of management. At DCI, the pilots are too busy trying to get to DAL, so they don't want to make waves, so they don't feel that they can stop the operation in the interest of safety. Tough to risk manage when all you want is to fly for someone else.

DALPA can only do so much besides be a good example though, unless next section 6 the pilot group decides to spend negotiating capital on ensuring DCI carriers use the DAL hiring process, and have robust ASAP and FOQA programs. So let Chad and Dave set the example, but let them be experts in politics, and let the safety experts be the safety experts. Otherwise...well...you can imagine how we'll that'd go over.

Each culture of each airline is unique, and each culture is passionately nationalistic. So just wishing for it won't change it. Bringing the airlines in closer (ala Pinnacle) may effect some positive change, however.

SailorJerry 09-30-2012 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1268805)

Our MEL says we can use our ACARS when it's deferred if it works.

Most airlines don't have an ACARS that was designed to be so user friendly. The Honeywell ACARS on a CRJ interfacing with a Rockwell avionics package is a bad idea. The Rockwell Datalink isn't much better.

Your MEL is just so great though. That's awesome.

georgetg 09-30-2012 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1268810)
Not taken as an "excuse," but when pilots are brought up in a culture which encourages pilot pushing they become used to it. At these airlines the Captains who take the risks are heroes until they break something or get regulatory attention. Then management sacrifices the Captain's certificate to get the FAA off their back, but continues pushing the next guy. This is why our union pushes back for "One Level of Safety" across the board.

As others have mentioned, a union which is conflicted about outsourcing loses focus on its core mission. It is impossible to take the moral high ground on safety, while out the back door you agree with management to facilitate outsourcing.

While I do not speak on behalf any of the candidates, a reason I support Dave Nestor and Chad Smith is my impression that they "get" ALPA's mission and are clearly focused on the foundational principles on which our association was built...

This really is the most salient point.

I have seen the game as it is played at a non-ALPA carrier.
I've been there, I've seen colleagues fired to "get the FAA off our back".
It's why I voted to be represented by ALPA in a representative election.

This is the key reason for having a national union!
One level of safety. As long as operators out there are able to take creative shortcuts, they will always have the lower cost of an ALPA represented carrier.

The biggest threat to ALPA isn't the DPA, but ALPA itself.
  • Transparency
  • Accountability
  • And a desire for openness are the first steps.

Cheers
George

Pineapple Guy 09-30-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1268854)
The 30/31 paycheck is an advance for the following month. So the 9/30 check was an advance for 1/2 of the guarantee of October. If you're on reserve, the difference will be quite a bit considering the drop in ALV's.

johnso29, that is not correct. The end of month check is paid as half the reserve guarantee for that month, and is an "advance" only in that it is pay for flight in that month that will finally be paid in full on the 15th of the next month.

For example: Your Sep flying will be paid on Sep 30th and Oct 15th. On the first check, you get the first XX hours (equal to half the reserve guarantee) and on Oct 15th you get whatever else you are owed (plus per diem).

The Sep 30 check was much lower, because reserve guarantees in Sep went way down compared to the summer months.

Pineapple Guy 09-30-2012 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1268871)
Ok, this might jive with what I am seeing. Makes sense. 30th (9/28) check is the $$ from the first half of the month (9/1-9/15). The subsequent check on the 15th (10/15) is the cleanup of the previous month (9/16-9/30).

TEN

That is not correct either. See my reply to johnso in another post. If you flew zero hours from 9-1 thru 9-15, but flew a ton in the last half, you'll still get half the reserve guarantee in your 9/30 check.


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