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Originally Posted by Express pilot
(Post 1291272)
If you have a VD into a seat you can hold and guys junior to you where MD from their seat in that seat. Do you not get the VD?
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Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 1291280)
From the Managing Director of Flight Ops via the LAX road show:
Q: When will pilot hiring begin? A: Not until toward the end of next year, but once it starts it will continue for 15 years. Hmmmm - seems I heard this before, but better than bad news. |
I don't understand the surprise and following negativity....
No net gain in airframes means: no need for more pilots. A net gain in airframes means a need for more pilots! DAL has announced a net increase in airframes being delivered starting in September/October of 2013.... Hiring will not start sooner than when pilots would be needed to fill the added seats. Follow the actions of upper management decisions, not the words of the talking head middle managers. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1291256)
Well, since you mentioned me, let's review the chart:
http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...oBid/TEMP1.png As far as typing rather than doing? I don't know. I fly the line. Seems like I do do a lot. And when I am doing it... I make this airline look pretty damn good. ;) |
Originally Posted by Delta1067
(Post 1291302)
Why does it show Delta below Alaska, JBlue & AA when it comes to market pay? I'm pretty sure we make a lot more than those airlines do.
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
(Post 1291302)
Why does it show Delta below Alaska, JBlue & AA when it comes to market pay? I'm pretty sure we make a lot more than those airlines do.
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 1291304)
It's not pilot specific. It's an average of all delta employees.
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
(Post 1291272)
If you have a VD into a seat you can hold and guys junior to you where MD from their seat in that seat. Do you not get the VD?
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Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1291295)
I don't understand the surprise and following negativity....
No net gain in airframes means: no need for more pilots. A net gain in airframes means a need for more pilots! DAL has announced a net increase in airframes being delivered starting in September/October of 2013.... Hiring will not start sooner than when pilots would be needed to fill the added seats. Follow the actions of upper management decisions, not the words of the talking head middle managers. As for your last paragraph, it makes little sense. Hiring needs to start before the seats arrive. While the right seat of the 717 can be filled with newhires, the left seat will not. Presumably, since we're going to see benefits in terms of mainline growth, the replacements for those that move to said left seat, need to be in position early. Ergo, advancement must lead the airframes by some period. There is essentially one more bid left to validate or disprove your optimism. I did expect hiring to start by now, based on the noises made by DAL and ALPA in June, but the bottom line is that it's still early to call this. Early 2013 will reveal all. Meanwhile, don't be surprised or upset if some are skeptical. We've learned to be cautious with our optimisim. Do you find that surprising? |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 1291254)
80,000 Delta employees and 12,000 pilots. Go back to fourth grade math and tell me about the concept of averaging.
http://www.poorparenting.co.uk/wp-co.../homer_doh.jpg And even if you are right, you are still the arrogant personification of ALPA pilots love to hate |
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