Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-05-2009 | 01:07 PM
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From: A-320A
I couldn't agree with you more Johnso. I hate that place because its ALWAYS a Charlie Foxtrot. I was in there about two weeks ago and the ramp got all hot and bothered with us for throwing on some last minute bags after we pushed. He said "well, there's your delay." Like every other thousand times I've been in there we haven't been delayed due to their screwed up operation. DAL management needs to go up there on a weekend, check it out, and start firing some people. Its a joke.
I can also tell you with decent certainty that they are working on a solution. Hope and pray they get what they are shooting for.
08-05-2009 | 01:09 PM
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When various councils all pass resolutions asking for study and action on scope restoration and the MEC collectively and by acclimation votes to ignore those resolutions it sends a message to management, and members, that the MEC acts illegitimately and does not represent the membership.
I deleted the post, but earlier today I asked, why would someone would give this MEC strike authorization? Usually I advocate giving the MEC all the power you can, but in this case, they make a point of letting the membership know that it can pound. The Representatives arrogantly refuse to take action on resolutions from the members.
Does anyone understand what their representational duties are? IMHO if Moak wants "votes by acclimation" some Rep needs to hold out and say "restore some flying to mainline THEN you get my vote."
I'm all for the smokescreen, but if in that position I'd make them buy my cooperation. A reps duty is to his pilots, even if it makes it uncomfortable in the hospitality room. I like politicians who command the respect of the party apparatus.
I deleted the post, but earlier today I asked, why would someone would give this MEC strike authorization? Usually I advocate giving the MEC all the power you can, but in this case, they make a point of letting the membership know that it can pound. The Representatives arrogantly refuse to take action on resolutions from the members.
Does anyone understand what their representational duties are? IMHO if Moak wants "votes by acclimation" some Rep needs to hold out and say "restore some flying to mainline THEN you get my vote."
I'm all for the smokescreen, but if in that position I'd make them buy my cooperation. A reps duty is to his pilots, even if it makes it uncomfortable in the hospitality room. I like politicians who command the respect of the party apparatus.
On a side note Bar, I do not know what the MEC is thinking. I know that there HAS to be something going on for them to blatantly look past a resolution that was passed in so many councils. Maybe they want to avoid it till more announcements come out and it will give the rank and file a clearer picture of why they make certain calculated decisions, but it is bad form, and I agree with you on that.
Once again Communication as to why!
08-05-2009 | 01:10 PM
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From: Kickin’ Back
J29,
Welcome to our world!!!
I came into JFK one time from EDI in a 757 and parked on the remote pad. Waited quite awhile for the people movers to come out and when they did I was surprised that they actually made it to the deplaning door because of how we were parked relative to other aircraft.
Welcome to our world!!!
I came into JFK one time from EDI in a 757 and parked on the remote pad. Waited quite awhile for the people movers to come out and when they did I was surprised that they actually made it to the deplaning door because of how we were parked relative to other aircraft.
08-05-2009 | 01:11 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Which ultimately come down to communication. If your reps communicated to you their beliefs not those of the MEC chair, then you would truly know where they stood and could hold them accountable for actions that were not backed up by previous statements. It would show you which way to vote.
I'm not voting yes to anyone who voted no to the resolutions passed by their membership.
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08-05-2009 | 01:35 PM
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I've been blessed in that i've NEVER been to JFK! I hope to keep it that way for as long as possible 
08-05-2009 | 01:46 PM
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Just a word of advice, if you are going to do a JFK turn, make sure to grab food before you leave MSP or DTW because you will most likely be at a hardstand (it doesn't matter what size airplane you are in).
08-05-2009 | 01:50 PM
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08-05-2009 | 02:33 PM
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08-05-2009 | 03:02 PM
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From: Light Chop
Whats that Las Vegas commercial: "Las Vegas is calling..."
Well, "JFK is calling..."
and "LaGuardia is calling..."
You will answer.
Well, "JFK is calling..."
and "LaGuardia is calling..."
You will answer.
08-05-2009 | 03:33 PM
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From: Flying the SEC
When various councils all pass resolutions asking for study and action on scope restoration and the MEC collectively and by acclimation votes to ignore those resolutions it sends a message to management, and members, that the MEC acts illegitimately and does not represent the membership.
I deleted the post, but earlier today I asked, why would someone would give this MEC strike authorization? Usually I advocate giving the MEC all the power you can, but in this case, they make a point of letting the membership know that it can pound. The Representatives arrogantly refuse to take action on resolutions from the members.
Does anyone understand what their representational duties are? IMHO if Moak wants "votes by acclimation" some Rep needs to hold out and say "restore some flying to mainline THEN you get my vote."
I'm all for the smokescreen, but if in that position I'd make them buy my cooperation. A reps duty is to his pilots, even if it makes it uncomfortable in the hospitality room. I like politicians who command the respect of the party apparatus.
I deleted the post, but earlier today I asked, why would someone would give this MEC strike authorization? Usually I advocate giving the MEC all the power you can, but in this case, they make a point of letting the membership know that it can pound. The Representatives arrogantly refuse to take action on resolutions from the members.
Does anyone understand what their representational duties are? IMHO if Moak wants "votes by acclimation" some Rep needs to hold out and say "restore some flying to mainline THEN you get my vote."
I'm all for the smokescreen, but if in that position I'd make them buy my cooperation. A reps duty is to his pilots, even if it makes it uncomfortable in the hospitality room. I like politicians who command the respect of the party apparatus.
Although I disagreed with him, I respect him for being honest about it. From his perspective paycheck is everything because of the lack of a DB.
There is a certain point on the list where his point of view will rule. What we more junior people have to do is vote en masse to elect younger reps to represent our segment. I am afraid there is a percentage of the list that will never care about scope.
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