Don't forget Capt. Moak.

He was in on it too... that's his name right next to Anderson's signature block at the bottom of the agreement (along with the Pinnacle CEO and PCL ALPA MEC chair)

LM circumventing DALPA? We've never seen that before. :eek: :rolleyes:

Sorry we at Pinnacle are not the cream of the crop. Guess me being at this company and having the Pinnacle pilot label disqualifies me. Unfortunate such a broad stroke of the brush is used on a group of your peers. I get it. Guess I made a wrong choice in choosing airlines. Maybe I should have went elsewhere like Skywest, cause they are the cream of the crop.

You're going to need to be more specific where in my post you got anything that you just stated.

(I came from Pinnacle...)

Signatories to the Pinnacle bridge agreement:

Richard H. Anderson
Delta Air Lines CEO

Captain Donald L. Moak
ALPA President

John Spanjers
Pinnacle Airlines President

Captain Tom Wychor
Pinnacle MEC Chairman


No DALPA representative present....

This is a really bad precedent and in violation of ALPA national policy.

We had to show them ours, they are equally required to show us theirs...

Again this is a concessionary contract with another pilot group that is being sold to that group with promises made by Delta to those pilots.

If this occurs unchallenged at Pinnacle, what will stop Delta from proceeding similarly with say the Virgin Atlantic pilots...

Cheers
George

I've never been a regional pilot, but it sounds like the guys over at Pinnacle are getting hosed. I've wanted to be a Delta pilot for a long time, and one day I hope to get the call. I think I'd be a good fit, but I don't presume to be any better than the guys over at Pinnacle. There's no good answer to this. I just hope that Delta interviews us all, and hires whomever they feel strengthens their pilot group the most.

If that's me, great. But if that's the Pinnacle guy, I can accept that too.

If the other majors understand that ALPA authorized a Regional MEC to negotiate and bind a major while circumventing the major MEC s autonomy there will be a political backlash. Wonder if Scott Stratton's phone has been ringing? If not, he needs to go ahead and get it charged up.

Frankly, I am embarrassed. Our MEC wasn't even considered relevant enough to pick up the phone and tell "hey guys, this is what's coming, get on board." ... and one would think getting approval from our MEC would have been perfunctory.

Tough decisions for the first week of a new MEC Admin.

The military pool is drying up. Half the guys who graduate from UPT end up flying drones. It ain't what it used to be, for sure. Still, I am not a fan of flows. ESPECIALLY when they are agreed to outside of our union.

I am proud to be a Delta pilot because I know full well the selection process. It also makes me confident to fly with other Delta pilots because I know that they went through the same thing that I did (fNWA fully included in that assessment).

I'm sure there are some great guys and superb pilots at Pinnacle. If they are offered the chance to interview, test and receive a job offer, right on. If they are offered a fast track to employment at DAL without the traditional screening, I think its going to be a train wreck...for some of them and for Delta.

We are where we are, because of who we are. Lets not lose sight of that.

They will be screened, albeit a single day process and if you blow it you can reapply to do it again a year later.

Guys,

I think we are getting a little bit ahead of ourselves. Most, not all, of the guys who failed the DAL hiring process were able to reapply - this is not a change.

We will still hire former military Pilots - Why do yo think the DCI percentage was set at 35%? As Buzz mentioned the military pool is getting smaller, although I would not say drying up.

Not to come across as liking this whole flow through, because I dont. I definitely don't like a guaranted job, but have no issues with a guaranteed interview. Lets let the dust settle before we march on the village with pitchforks and torches.

Besides, who is to say the Pinnacle guys will even pass their TA?

Scoop