The issue is that another pilot group is cutting deals with our management.

Alert- Jenna Fischer on Jimmy Kimmel tonight!

You guys are terrible. Let's dismount from the high horse and open up our closed minds and look at the facts.

1) We vote to outsource flying
2) It's ok because we get a pay raise :)
3) Our passengers travel on Pinnacle/Compass/Skywest and 7+ other outsourced carriers and thats ok, if my pay goes up
4) Butttt....... It's not ok if they are a Delta pilot.
5) Half of these guys are getting put on the street due to a manufactured bankruptcy (by us)
6) Mainline pilots are taking nice big pay raises (we should) while guys at the bottom on poverty level wages are taking pay cuts, all while flying in the same system.

Getting off the high horse works pretty well for unity. Who are we to think we are so much better off than another pilot who flies the same passengers on the same tickets.

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People who are not eligible to reinterview due to previously failing the HR portion will now (if this passes) be given a second and potentially third chance. That was what was pointed out. All this while pilots from other airlines/backgrounds that failed it will never be given the second chance.

Regardless, I'm glad that they have the screening process and are holding them to the DL requirements. That was my minimum for not going all pitchforks and torches on it. :)

The DCI 35% quota was done due to the pain that the TA was going to cause at the regionals. That pain has transpired. Now the 9E MEC has gone around DALPA and negotiated this outside of our section 1.

As far as it passing... As a junior FO I could see voting yes due to the impending furlough and benefits for furloughs. As a mid range CA... not a chance. Anyone without a degree has little reason to vote yes either... So, we'll see.

I can't thank you enough! A mainline pilot on these web boards who understands the reality of this industry!!!!!

After reading the bridge agreement, the reality hits.

Another MEC has scoped Delta flying. Another contract for operation of 76 seat jets now preempts the Delta Pilot Working Agreement.

Now if the Delta pilots try to improve our scope below 193 76 seat jets, we would have to get the permission of the Pinnacle pilots to do so.

The Delta PWA trumps the Bridge agreement, it says so in there.

Where?

Section 1. b. sets the fleet floor with the equivalent super RJ 193.

????:confused:

TEN

My gripe with flow throughs is merely the fact that they patronize an overworked, underpaid, and overall under appreciated pilot group.

Furthermore, while a flow through will create opportunities for some, it will undoubtedly destroy opportunities for others.

It's like out last TA all over again, a management team is attempting to extract as much negotiationing capital as possible from things they plan on doing already.

In the end of the day it's a numbers game, when you get your time and when the next career door opens for you. A senior captain once told me we are always one bad CEO away from bankruptcy.
Every company has that 5% of pilots we all know should probably not be there, and that includes both DAL and PNCL.

Hope that doesn't sound too high-horsey, and I wish the best for all the pilots at PNCL and would love to see some new guys come in.
(And I could careless where they come from as long as they easy to work with and didn't pay for their job)