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Old 01-01-2013 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
What if the #13 guy on a 12000 pilot list flies 73NA? What if that company merged with a company that only had 1000 pilots and only flew 737s? Would the smaller company's pilots be ratioed in from #13 on down?
Seniority lists are always stove piped in SLI discussions. Each pilot is place in the highest paying piece of equipment he can hold. That matrix is what is used for lists from both companies since it eliminates a lot of varibles and puts everyone on even footing.
Old 01-01-2013 | 06:51 PM
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if true, I learned something, thanks.

But wouldnt that move people on the multiple category list down the list from what they were holding "out of seniority order?"
Old 01-01-2013 | 07:47 PM
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The floor keeps rising! Jumped 12 numbers.
Old 01-01-2013 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
What if the #13 guy on a 12000 pilot list flies 73NA? What if that company merged with a company that only had 1000 pilots and only flew 737s? Would the smaller company's pilots be ratioed in from #13 on down?

Scambo,

I don't think it really matters what position any Pilot is currently holding - it matters how many positions the company has. For example if there are 1000 widebody Captain positions it is assumed that every Pilot down to 1000 is a widebody Captain.

In other words it would not affect the SLI if number 3000 is the wide-body plug because there are only 1000 positions not 3000.

I think this is basically what Sailing just said in different words.

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Old 01-01-2013 | 08:14 PM
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I think this would be an interesting topic to revisit if the Delta - Hawaiian talk picks up again. Will everybody have the same opinion when they're SLI'd junior to the 4 year 330 FO, or sub 10 year WB captain?
Old 01-01-2013 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NWflyer
I think this would be an interesting topic to revisit if the Delta - Hawaiian talk picks up again. Will everybody have the same opinion when they're SLI'd junior to the 4 year 330 FO, or sub 10 year WB captain?
With only 400 or so pilots, I think it'd be a much easier integration. Not to say that there wouldn't be a lot of us ****ed off. Based on the radio calls I hear in the middle of the night going west to east from "Hawaii 50," we don't have a lot to be concerned about.
Old 01-02-2013 | 05:15 AM
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Salute to the team that thought up a Harley powered Prius for Lemons racing.

Shame that we can't find a handful of Delta pilots that are willing to get a little grease under their fingernails, this stuff looks like a hoot. (Of course in the Southeast were are going to be completely dominated by the pro Nascar teams with fab shops who do this stuff as, well, it is a joke)



Still think the "One Great Airline" Craptation (made from the merger of the two least functional cars in GM's production history ... the Pontiac Phoenix and Chevrolet Citation ... holds promise. I know where there is a rusty X-11 model in Pickens County out beside a shed)

And if some lacy panty waist thinks this could be unbecoming the brand, we could always theme it for US Air / America West, or really stir the pot with an Eastern Airlines car repainted with Continental logos.... there are plenty of airline mergers which deserve lambasting while getting tetanus from rusty crap cars.

Figure we could also strategically lose luggage in the path of competitors who wanted to pass us. (we'd surely get passed a lot and have little hope a checkered flag .... so we could call a black flag a "win" and start drinking early)


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Old 01-02-2013 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Salute to the team that thought up a Harley powered Prius for Lemons racing.

Shame that we can't find a handful of Delta pilots that are willing to get a little grease under their fingernails, this stuff looks like a hoot. (Of course in the Southeast were are going to be completely dominated by the pro Nascar teams with fab shops who do this stuff as, well, it is a joke)



Still think the "One Great Airline" Craptation (made from the merger of the two least functional cars in GM's production history ... the Pontiac Phoenix and Chevrolet Citation ... holds promise. I know where there is a rusty X-11 model in Pickens County out beside a shed)

And if some lacy panty waist thinks this could be unbecoming the brand, we could always theme it for US Air / America West, or really stir the pot with an Eastern Airlines car repainted with Continental logos.... there are plenty of airline mergers which deserve lambasting while getting tetanus from rusty crap cars.

Figure we could also strategically lose luggage in the path of competitors who wanted to pass us. (we'd surely get passed a lot and have little hope a checkered flag .... so we could call a black flag a "win" and start drinking early)

I'm in! Problems going to be finding guys that are within close proximity of one another to do this and a place to wrench on and store the lemon.
Old 01-02-2013 | 07:41 AM
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Am I the only one who thinks everything about reserve has actually gotten worse except the pay improvement and occasional extra day off? My quality of life this past year on reserve has been my worst at the company yet.
Old 01-02-2013 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Am I the only one who thinks everything about reserve has actually gotten worse except the pay improvement and occasional extra day off? My quality of life this past year on reserve has been my worst at the company yet.
What specifically? Are you junior in your category? What % are you on reserve?

I would disagree, but I'm senior on reserve in a fat category. I would agree that it looks like junior reserve guys are flying more often than before. That will even out when we're not so overstaffed (or get into summer flying). Then the seniority on reserve will just allow the senior to decide "which" trips they prefer to fly instead of "nah, I'd rather not go fly."
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