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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 658261)

I think for the benefit of the company and the pilot a pilot should have recall rights as long as the pilot qualifies for the short course. That way the pilot gets their seat back and the company saves on the training costs as they start moving pilots to senior positions.
It is a win win for both parties.
I have heard that you can get the short course after two or three years, I am not sure which.

That certainly seems reasonable. 180 days seems too short, infinity is too long.

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Originally Posted by Desperado (Post 658263)

That certainly seems reasonable. 180 days seems too short, infinity is too long.

It would make sense from a company standpoint as well. It saves them a lot of money because most downturns only last two or years or so.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 658261)

Are you saying that a pilot should only have recall rights from furlough for 2 or 3 years? That seems really short. 7 years seems to be the contractual average.

Not furlough sir, but recall to a displaced position.

We have 10 year recall rights from furlough here.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 658276)

Not furlough sir, but recall to a displaced position.

We have 10 year recall rights from furlough here.

Understand. That makes more sense. I misunderstood what you meant.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 658262)

This thread will never die.
To much to talk about. I am sure that if we keep it up we will celebrate a few retirements on here. :eek:

Wheww, thanks ACL. I'm all for serving my country and my airline...thought my Fabio reach had put us into a tailspin. Sheesh.

Actually, I'll just blame Bucking Bar. I know our new North brothers couldn't be so subversive......could they?:D

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Originally Posted by 8CherryGarcia (Post 658225)

FWIW

Right from Dickson's mouth at the DTW meeting:

"we are roughly 400 overstaffed in the south and more or less even in the north going into the winter"...considering the PRIP, ANC closing and new rigs kicking in.
He also stated a few times that there is no way to run the airline on the minimum staffing formula and they know that. The accountants say over by XXX, and that might not be the real number..

He emphasized that when speaking about staffing, you have to be a little fuzzy, because that's what frames the picture.

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thats what i've been hearing also. With the pirps, LTD, and new RIGS kicking in we are looking good on the North side. (even with the -200 closure) Next summer we should be sitting pretty good assuming things dont get worse. The Company should have furloughed last year but didnt because of the merger. So far we've made it over the hump, even the pessimists believe the recovery is here (flat) but certainly within the 22 month breakeven point on furlough costs. Combine that with the fact that we're approaching 2 years into the age 65 change and we should start seeing guys drop off within that period of time as well. The merger has likely saved alot of peoples bacon, mine included. ;)

The Glass Is Still Half Full :D

So... DAL-S guys... My conversion date (and those of my displaced friends) is 3/2/09. 180 days from 3/2/09 is 8/28/09... does that mean we're hosed on reinstatement since the conversion date for this bid is 9/1/09? Did we miss it by a couple of stupid days?

Yes, almost like they planned it that way.

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Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 658142)

That seems the case to me. I would still love to see some sort of short haul out of LAX to compete with LUV. During my relatively short commute out of LAX, you wouldn't imagine how many LUV pax asked me how to find the Bradley int'l terminal for their conx flights. If we could only capture some of that back, with our SYD and NRT connections. I could certainly understand that's not on top of the priority with route Planning at this moment.

If someone would just buy those folks in ATL a map that goes west of the rockies...

Anyone, anyone, anyone....