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Originally Posted by Nopac
(Post 657334)
Yeah, but Steenland kept shrinking the airline. I've "moved up" 2000 numbers in the last ten years, but I'm still down towards the bottom of the list.
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 657450)
comair was mentioned to be excluded from these discussions, per the individual i heard this from fwiw
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 657464)
Well that would surprise me since OH is an ALPA carrier. The only reason they would do that is because OH is a short timer.
I've moved up 950 numbers in 6 years and I'm still only 110 from the bottom. Comair going away is a sure thing. |
Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 657412)
Scoop, are you going to run?
Alfa, here is one solution. Have it written in the contract that no new DCI contracts can be written and all the current ones would be allowed to expire. Also have it written that every new a/c that is added must be flown by Delta pilots and F/As. That would stop the bleeding and prevent any future DCI growth at our expense. |
Navtech PBS Desktop Application
Change of direction here for a second:
Gentlemen and Ladies: If you are using the Navtech PBS Desktop Application to input your bids for this month I would strongly suggest that you look at what is actually on the PBS website via the DeltaNet. I have submitted several lengthy bids only to find out that about half of the data (bids) are making onto the server. I'm not sure if I am an isolated case with the desktop application or not but, I'm just throwing it out there. Notified both PBS ALPA committee and Fred Terrell the PBS Administrator |
Originally Posted by reddog25
(Post 657657)
OK folks......ain't gonna work. What are we willing to give up? The management doesn't want us to fly the DCI. Why? cuz if they can get $1 and not have to spend $1 it's worth it to them. We are overhead to them. DCI is the new B-Scale. It took a strike to get rid of the B-Scale and in exchange we got the RJ-85s at NWA.
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A-MEN Brother!!
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Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 657652)
Comair a short timer?
I've moved up 950 numbers in 6 years and I'm still only 110 from the bottom. Comair going away is a sure thing. There are plenty of us on this side that moved up some 3,500 numbers in our first 6-7 years only to remain in the bottom 0-10%. We also got to spend up to 5+ years on the street. Partly due to a down economy. Largly due to outsourcing of our flying to RJ's. I know, I know...our scope allowed it. Most of us hardest hit had no vote in the matter. Bankruptcy played its part as well. Just sayin.... |
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 657685)
Why do we have to "give" anything up? That mentality is what has us in the position we're in, mgmt wants us to believe we have to "Give" stuff up to gain anything. How about we start working as a unified pilot group and GIVE Nothing up? Hasnt the pilot group "Given" up enough already?
Good point ! |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 657305)
Carl,
Are you sure about that? It seems to me management threw all of the employees to the wolves. Scoop Carl |
Originally Posted by Jay5150
(Post 657708)
I know you guys are taking a beating over there and I wouldn't be willing to guess one way or the other about Comair's future, but your scenario is not exclusive to the regionals.
There are plenty of us on this side that moved up some 3,500 numbers in our first 6-7 years only to remain in the bottom 0-10%. We also got to spend up to 5+ years on the street. Partly due to a down economy. Largly due to outsourcing of our flying to RJ's. I know, I know...our scope allowed it. Most of us hardest hit had no vote in the matter. Bankruptcy played its part as well. Just sayin.... Your 5 years on the street was largely due to a change in pilot work rules at Delta not RJ's. Total pilot block hours with the shift to international were the same in June of 09 as the time frame prior to LOA 46. |
Originally Posted by LOBO
(Post 657682)
Change of direction here for a second:
Gentlemen and Ladies: If you are using the Navtech PBS Desktop Application to input your bids for this month I would strongly suggest that you look at what is actually on the PBS website via the DeltaNet. I have submitted several lengthy bids only to find out that about half of the data (bids) are making onto the server. I'm not sure if I am an isolated case with the desktop application or not but, I'm just throwing it out there. Notified both PBS ALPA committee and Fred Terrell the PBS Administrator |
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