Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1353474)

Most of us don't realize that ALPA doesn't give a tinker's damn about the Delta pilot. They care only about the Delta pilot's dues money, and how they can keep it. They're trying to preserve their empire any way they can.

Baloney. You have proved that you really have no clue. You may not like Dalpa, but I challenge you to spend a week at a meeting, listen to the debate, go to a drafting committee, and then look somebody in the eye and repeat that statement.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1353482)

Are you arguing with yourself or did the quote function fail? :D


just teasing.

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1353469)

I won't pretend to speak for Purple, but more often than not I find myself agreeing with what he has to say. When I see such a question posed to him I think, what's wrong with voicing an opinion that is not in line with what the company or ALPA would be putting forth? Do you have to be a "Yes, sir, yes, sir, three bags full" employee or risk being considered unworthy of being part of the group? How else do you seek improvement if everything the men behind the curtain are doing is fine with everyone even when you know it's not? I guess we could all be propagandists, but wouldn't that get old and eventually result in less for our group as a whole? Why not work to improve our position when called for by pointing out how things need improving? I don't recall anyone complaining about 6 short calls being too many....only when the number went up did you hear complaints.

I thought Delta was the end all be all, and was over joyed to get hired on. I still think it's the best place for me--great people, great leadership. But now that I've been here a while I do question some of the moves made and how DALPA doesn't always seem to put up much of a fight like I think they should. So one has to wonder why that is. That doesn't mean I appreciate the work they do and how hard they fight for the line pilot, but am I totally satisfied--no. At times I'm very disappointed. I didn't have an opportunity to see the reasons why I would think this when I applied and was hired. And as I said before I still feel with these negatives that Delta is the best place to be. So hopefully this perspective helps you understand why some of us agree with the opinions of folks like Purple D.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1353473)

Dalad, someone must have spiked your drink. Talk like that sounds like organic growth could be around the corner. Crazy talk. :D

Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 1353474)

Most of us don't realize that ALPA doesn't give a tinker's damn about the Delta pilot. They care only about the Delta pilot's dues money, and how they can keep it. They're trying to preserve their empire any way they can.

Baloney. You have proved that you really have no clue. You may not like Dalpa, but I challenge you to spend a week at a meeting, listen to the debate, go to a drafting committee, and then look somebody in the eye and repeat that statement.

Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 1353486)

GG,

That was well said...

Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1353488)

That's what I thought too. They were also talking about opening a narrow body domicile in SEA as well. I need to go get a drug test now. :D

Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1353469)

I won't pretend to speak for Purple, but more often than not I find myself agreeing with what he has to say. When I see such a question posed to him I think, what's wrong with voicing an opinion that is not in line with what the company or ALPA would be putting forth? Do you have to be a "Yes, sir, yes, sir, three bags full" employee or risk being considered unworthy of being part of the group? How else do you seek improvement if everything the men behind the curtain are doing is fine with everyone even when you know it's not? I guess we could all be propagandists, but wouldn't that get old and eventually result in less for our group as a whole? Why not work to improve our position when called for by pointing out how things need improving? I don't recall anyone complaining about 6 short calls being too many....only when the number went up did you hear complaints.

I thought Delta was the end all be all, and was over joyed to get hired on. I still think it's the best place for me--great people, great leadership. But now that I've been here a while I do question some of the moves made and how DALPA doesn't always seem to put up much of a fight like I think they should. So one has to wonder why that is. That doesn't mean I appreciate the work they do and how hard they fight for the line pilot, but am I totally satisfied--no. At times I'm very disappointed. I didn't have an opportunity to see the reasons why I would think this when I applied and was hired. And as I said before I still feel with these negatives that Delta is the best place to be. So hopefully this perspective helps you understand why some of us agree with the opinions of folks like Purple D.

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1353434)

Whoa there. I like dissenting opinions. Even when stated inartfully and sometimes offensively.

It'd be pretty boring around here if all we had were pro-ALPA pro-company sailingfun types.

I be wearin' my Drank t-shirt.
We need that boy all up in here.
Fo shizzle.

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