Yeah. Kingsley is a real radical outsider. He'll shake things up for sure.

I have a feeling your mood will change as the full productivity the company won (ie you are away from your family not by choice) is put into action over the coming months. Giving up work rules that decrease quality of life. DUMB DUMB DUMB! You will see. I have lived through this before and it's not fun.

I'd heard so much good about constructive engagement when I stepped foot through the door here that I assumed that ALPA could do no wrong. By the end of my newhire pizza and beer fest I was angry enough to say something to the newhire guy. ALPA, as you pointed out earlier, was in fact the guiding force of the pilots - not the other way around, as it should be. It was clear, and remains clear over 2 years later that all committees are operating and dictating opinion TO the pilots while intentionally withholding facts. I never went into defend ALPA mode about the PNCL thing. (Mr Johnso on the other hand...) but I was at least put at ease after I reached out to my rep and got the facts. It's been years since anyone said "well the pilots think..." to management here. That's wrong.

I always tried to make sure constituent pilots have all the facts. We lead busy, complicated lives as pilots, and there's enough information flowing out there that we could literally be overwhelmed by it. I'm thankful that some guys are crazy enough to try to wrestle with it all, but I'd appreciate a bigger picture view, and I'd appreciate more reps flying the line, rather than being part time office jockeys. Been there, tried that - you lose touch after about 10 days away from the line.

Bottom line, ALPA lost the right to make up my mind for me after 10 days on the property. If I support them, even over something contentious, it's because unity is the prevailing winning condition. I assure you though, my own opinion and my own perspective is my own, typically derived from my own facts. If that's optimistic, then I guess that's a good thing. We're moving in the right direction, but I was certainly hoping for a larger shift in direction and tact from ALPA with a new poodle...err...MEC Chairman in place.

Not only did they get priority over offline jumpseaters, as commuters, they got seating priority over Alaska non-revs. I once missed the last flight home because they gave the seat to a NWA commuter. The next day, I registered as an AS commuter so it wouldn't happen again.

The problem was, it was only supposed to be between LAX, SEA, ANC and MSP. The CSAs didn't get the word and were doing it system wide.

By the time we even get to the full brunt of the work rules we'll be back into preliminary bargaining. The company will have had plenty of time to watch their world class operation disintegrate in front of them if they've pushed too far. What was the line at the end of Boondock Saints?

The question is not how far.

The question is:

Do you posses the constitution? The depth of faith...

...to go as far as is needed?

Roger that. Good post.

Carl

I came from a regional. I'll take our current work rules over that anyday.

When did I ever defend the 9E Bridge Agreement? :confused:

Like I said once before - we don't know how good we have it. I agree!

My last 10 days in my previous life, I was JRA'd twice. No recourse. It was on my Release.

Once at Delta, someone called and said I was the junior available, and asked if I'd be interested in working on days off for premium pay and some more days off. Couldn't make it in time, but it was nice of them to ask.

Don't make that face at me. My sarcasm eludes me on my iPhone after 2 margaritas.