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gloopy 03-05-2013 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 1365729)
No. I'm not aware of any Delta guys with apps in at UAL, but odds are there will be some.

No one at DL now is under 3rd year pay. I doubt bases alone would drive someone to take that plunge. If we furloughed sure, and maybe in the future with new hires on first year pay but not now.

Scoop 03-05-2013 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1365655)
If that's the case then Delta better get ready for some competition. We're getting back to the days when qualified pilots will have three offers from different companies.


This is great news for guys trying to get hired. Options.

If they want to fly for UCAL they can get hired right into mainline.

If they want to fly for DAL they can apply to one of numerous bottom feeding DCI carriers who compete solely on cost, Errr I mean compensation, oops same thing. :eek:

To be fair if they want to fly for DAL and be at a mainline carrier they can also apply at: Virgin, KLM, Korean, Virgin Atlantic etc. Sorry if I missed anyone.

Scoop :)

Free Bird 03-05-2013 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1365643)
"Also, there seems to be another indication of troubles in Delta’s vertical-integration strategy of purchasing a refinery as a fuel hedge. The ex-oil-trader-turned-Delta-VP-of-Fuel, Jon Ruggles, left the company quite abruptly late last year. Ruggles, a key person behind the Trainer refinery deal, was hired away from Merrill Lynch less than a year ago to head Delta’s trading operation. Rumor has it that Ruggles' exit from Delta was somehow related to losses at the Trainer plant."

Delta Airlines Got an Oil Refinery: The Math Does Not Work | EconMatters

"The man who from all accounts was central to that deal getting done was Jon Ruggles, a former trader who headed Delta’s jet purchasing. At the Philadelphia press conference announcing the deal, Ruggles was up at the front, along with the political dignitaries from the city and state, along with the the airline’s senior management.

And now he’s gone.

As Platts’ Matt Kohlman reported Friday, Ruggles has left Delta for unknown reasons. A Delta spokesman confirmed his departure without elaborating as to the reasons."

The man who drove the Trainer acquisition has left Delta Airlines « The Barrel Blog

Similar thing happened 3 or 4 years ago with Delta hiring the world's best cargo guru, then he suddenly left as well?

NuGuy 03-05-2013 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1365747)
Yep. That could get very interesting especially if we try to run too lean.

There are some very interesting implications from the 117 interpretation.

Nu

forgot to bid 03-05-2013 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1365759)

To be fair if they want to fly for DAL and be at a mainline carrier they can also apply at: Virgin, KLM, Korean, Virgin Atlantic etc. Sorry if I missed anyone.

Scoop :)

That's mean. :D :D

forgot to bid 03-05-2013 04:41 PM

If anyone wants to come to my house and shoot me, feel free. Now that the kids are in bed I'm going to try and hang a microwave.

biigD 03-05-2013 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1365794)
If anyone wants to come to my house and shoot me, feel free. Now that the kids are in bed I'm going to try and hang a microwave.

Would you mind attaching a recommendation to my app first?

Ah hell, never mind. I'll be right over. :)

Elvis90 03-05-2013 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1365674)
profit. Something was strange about ruggles departure as well, but that seems to be finally coming out as well.

Oh, I agree...the refinery was a brilliant move and will make a boatload of cash. I just brought up the negative article because it had a reference to Ruggles.

Flamer 03-05-2013 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by LOBO (Post 1365742)
Here's an interesting tidbit from the new regs.

I read this as I want to check my schedule as soon as I can so my duty day starts. Or that we will never have to check our schedule and the schedulers will call us.


A4A asked whether a requirement in the collective bargaining agreement to check a schedule or calendar, or to acknowledge a trip assignment, is considered duty.
Section 117.3 defines duty as ‘‘any task that a flightcrew member performs as required by the certificate holder
* * *’’ Thus, if a certificate holder requires that a flightcrew member check a schedule or calendar, or acknowledge a trip assignment, then the flightcrew member’s compliance with that requirement would be considered duty. The collective bargaining agreement has no impact on this analysis, as this agreement simply provides the legal basis for the certificate holder to require a flightcrew member to perform certain actions

It says CBA REQUIREMENT to check your schedule. You can check it all day long on your own time, but if the company didn't require you to check it, the only duty day clock you have started is the one on your Casio calculator wristwatch.

Purple Drank 03-05-2013 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by LOBO (Post 1365742)
* * *’’ Thus, if a certificate holder requires that a flightcrew member check a schedule or calendar, or acknowledge a trip assignment, then the flightcrew member’s compliance with that requirement would be considered duty. The collective bargaining agreement has no impact on this analysis, as this agreement simply provides the legal basis for the certificate holder to require a flightcrew member to perform certain actions

When I answer the phone from skeds, my duty day starts?

So will all reserves be on de facto short call, without the company having to negotiate it? :eek:


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