Where does on find the information on who has bid what?

He's been making well over $300K for the past 8 years, that's roughly $2.4Million, so yeah, I think he got over it. Oh, I heard he's still going to be employed by DL, as the head of new hire recruitment or such.

If we ever need any new hires that is...:rolleyes:

So he'll be getting more paid time off than the +717 guys. :cool:

I read the article about him. Seems like a great guy. Congratulations to him. I wish him the best.

I've flown trips with him many times, he is a great guy, very laid back for a lead LCA.

Re. all the displacements, what are the rules for getting "Pay Protected", for all the displaced guys, who will be Funding the 717's?

The dc9 pays the same as the 717 so you really cannont count those a positions in your figure. The other non 717a positions will increase by 18.

From an earlier post by Sailing:


The union and the company both costed the jobs out at almost the same number. The company has looked at the contract and the coming FTDT changes and plans zero adjustments in how they man the airline.
You state we have lost as many as 1000 jobs. Where are the massive displacements to support your numbers? The last two bids had a substantial net increase in Captains jobs. The bid to be posted next month should have a net increase in Captains of well over 100 jobs. How do you explain that if your numbers are even remotely right? Put some numbers up, show us where you get 1000 or more jobs lost.



During the road sales shows last June, we heard about the assured hiring after passage of the TA. The pitch: Forward movement is coming so don't focus the 4-8-3-3 on where you sit now, focus on the seat advancement that the 717 will generate. Oh, and there will also definitely be "another bite of the apple so don't fret at the rates."

Above is sailings recent defense of the calculus used in the pitch which now can be viewed as a significant fail of the associations strategic planning and EFand A, or worse.

It all comes down to the rates. The cash in the checks. Promises of advancement and Skittle skies filled with rainbows, whether offered by the association or management, do not translate to 401K balances or are excepted for mortgage payments.

And to think we gave up profit sharing to fund all of what this contract has sowed so far.

He's been making well over $300K for the past 8 years, that's roughly $2.4Million, so yeah, I think he got over it. Oh, I heard he's still going to be employed by DL, as the head of new hire recruitment or such.


That's what I thought.Thx Tim.

Cal once told me, "my daughter's are out of the house,my house is paid for and I love my job".
Just thought he was crazy for staying on at the time.

Well MSP definately took it in the shorts. Those guys are following MEM into a death spiral. After this bid what will the MSP plug be? Likely pre 2007?

Maybe a nice chart showing the bottom guys in each base (-the displacements) is in order. I know it could spill differently depending on the bid but it will give us talking points for the next 10 days....

I don't think he had anything do do with passing the law, take it up with any elected congress person or senator. I say any because it was 100% for zero against, Last I looked Cal didn't get a vote.