I agree it is time for a change, and the 777CA is a good choice for CA rep. I know of one FO that has jumpped on the band wagon and another that is about ready to.

Any more going to come out of the wood work?

You go and bid the 73N here in ATL?

I ask you this. It appears to me that the attitude on the 170/175 has changed. Did you guys run the numbers after tabling the CPS resolutions and realize that in fact that jets could be operated at mainline profitably?

I think that there has been a shift and thinking and the only way to explain it is if the numbers were truly rerun.

It should be worded Pay, Scope, and THEIR OWN retirement.

If they can improve their own at the expense of their "brothers and sisters" they will do it in a heartbeat.

I don't care which airline you work for!;)

Of course, but as you know the questions are always worded in such a way.

I think that each pilot should get the max allowable in their retirement accts. Pro rate it over 12 or 24 paychecks.

If that is too much CA's get max and FO's get 40K

LEC Elections
 

With the availability of APC and other forums, the prohibition against candidates campaigning at the DALPA Forum is going to prove to be ineffective. I suspect that persons wanting to run for LEC office may start posting here. Or, they may have their supporters posting. We may actually get to hear where they stand. DALPA Communications won't be able to put the stopper back in the bottle.

As a matter of fact, I have even considered running so that I can suck off the tit of DALPA, just like the rest of the "paid volunteers."

Do you "think" that, or do you "want" that, or do you "wish" that.

Looking at the real world economics of Delta, how to you get to where you "think" we should be? I'll even let you throw out the fuel hedge losses AND gains of the last 2+ years as you explain where the money you're going to spend is coming from out of Delta's budget.

I know I "want" to be at C2K plus inflation, with a fully funded soft frozen DB plus our new DC plan. I also know that the reality of this industry doesn't support any passenger airline at that rate of compensation. Until the business model generates enough profit to support that payscale, "thinking" you deserve it is as close as you'll get. I agree with your thought. Show me a path to get there.

Hey Slowplay,
It's now time for you to take your toys out of the sandbox and go home to Mommy Moak.

Seriously is that the best you've got when it comes to answers, trying to play school games and passing out insults at will. :eek:

Yup. That's all they ever type about. They are single issue until they respond to a post like this.

Lets do look at some REAL numbers, please. The pilot contract here was never more than about $2.2 billion. PBS and the LOA 46 staffing changes saved about 10% of the amount you suggest. You're right, we used to have about 10,200 pilots on the seniority list (July 16, 2001) How many of those were actually flying the line? We had nearly 1000 pass through the "disabled" ranks since then, and Delta parked a whole bunch of L1011 and 727 second officer positions through May 2003. A couple of hundred of those pilots were new hires that never flew a trip prior to their FM1 furlough. Delta was mismanaged to the tune of BILLIONS during that timeframe. Do you think you can recapture that money from Leo Mullin?

You see it differently than all the data I've seen. Scope didn't come in second. It was behind economic and qol issues. It's second most important to you, but you need to bring your co-workers to your point of view. Stridency or the near religious fervor in which some advance their belief doesn't help sway people. You get the same reaction that certain groups get when they knock on your door to talk about their view of religion. IMHO, If you're going to be successful in your campaign, you should contemplate that in how you market yourself.

Yup, it has protected us far better than we had a right to be protected. There are no Delta pilots on furlough. Over 10% of DCI pilots are on furlough. Delta is shrinking slightly. DCI will shrink by 25% of its airframes in 2 years You're being paid a competitive wage. You've received Claim, Note and Merger compensation if you've been here long enough. Is there a place you'd rather be that's gone through a similar set of circumstances?

Don't get me wrong. I want you to be successful!

I look forward to your "new" thinking. Maybe you can explain to me how you're going to improve my pay (first priority), Scope (second priority) and retirement (third priority) in the real world in which we operate. Please don't pander in your response. Talk about it from two points of view, how we relate to our competitors, and how it fits in with Delta's current economics.

I'm all ears (eyes in this case)!