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Originally Posted by Gnewt
(Post 662166)
"Hey Ya'll watch this!!!!!" Soon to be followed by "Oh SH__!!!!!!!":eek:
G[/QUOTE] Y'all aint going to believe this SH__! I'm so busted. I guess I've been out in Socal too long.......... I'm sure my good ole'boy card will soon be revoked... Perhaps since I attended high school in the South as well as a Southern University, I'll receive a waiver... I believe it's under the Public School Exemption or (PSE). Dude, I'm sooooo confused now...... Can't decide if I should wear my cowboy boots or board shorts.:cool: Next saying: "Y'all hold on, this is going to be scary as hell!" Context; What Lee is telling us about his leadership moving forward.... |
Originally Posted by RoughLandings
(Post 662165)
Some observations of Mr. Moak's presentation and Q&A at the Compass Road Show in MSP yesterday:
1) He blasted the APA for holding the line on 50-seat scope and for their attempts to bring the regional feed into the mainline. He firmly believes (somehow...) that if they give up their scope that it will mean 1000 mainline pilots brought back from furlough. 2) The MEC is very much in favor of as MANY flow-through agreements as they can get, because it "couples the regional feed to the brand". Actively seeking to sign more flow agreements. 3) He said the 76-seat scope is "gone and will not be coming back to the mainline". 4) Compass will be out of the Delta MEC in October, pending a miracle; Compass will not get DAL numbers. 5) He says there are no violations by RAH/Shuttle America and that they are looking into it. 6) He knows that people hammer him on this (and other) boards. All in all, it seemed as though he was trying to convince us that we need to accept our shoddy contract and pay because we are "Delta pilots". The scope battle just seems that much tougher now. |
Originally Posted by RoughLandings
(Post 662165)
Some observations of Mr. Moak's presentation and Q&A at the Compass Road Show in MSP yesterday:
1) He blasted the APA for holding the line on 50-seat scope and for their attempts to bring the regional feed into the mainline. He firmly believes (somehow...) that if they give up their scope that it will mean 1000 mainline pilots brought back from furlough. 2) The MEC is very much in favor of as MANY flow-through agreements as they can get, because it "couples the regional feed to the brand". Actively seeking to sign more flow agreements. 3) He said the 76-seat scope is "gone and will not be coming back to the mainline". 4) Compass will be out of the Delta MEC in October, pending a miracle; Compass will not get DAL numbers. 5) He says there are no violations by RAH/Shuttle America and that they are looking into it. 6) He knows that people hammer him on this (and other) boards. All in all, it seemed as though he was trying to convince us that we need to accept our shoddy contract and pay because we are "Delta pilots". The scope battle just seems that much tougher now. Is he appearing again? If so, PM me. Someone needs to ask the right questions. This ALPA Aparthied vision is ideologically, logically, morally and pragmatically bankrupt. It is justified by bankruptcy "save ourselves" thinking, based on bankruptcy economics and perpetuates our bankruptcy bargaining results. I've already posted the list of flaws in the flow through, so for the sake of redundancy I'll skip the entire list (unless someone asks for it). Lets just concentrate on one aspect of the vision. "The Delta MEC will set minimum standards for DCI carriers to negotiate" Obvious Flaws:
I believe ALPA is the best hope for this profession and want to like Moak. He did a great job with the US Air hostile takeover and the merger (IMHO). If it will take a miracle, I'm a miracle worker. In the mean time, he's giving away something that is worth a whole lot. If he wants to sell Compass, he should at least study it and know what it is worth. |
Unfortunately, Bar, he was in MEM today, and that is it for the Compass Road Shows.
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Bar,
I did forget the part about meeting with the DCI MEC heads to negotiate a minimum standard for safety/hiring practices. He told us that this will make the bargaining position stronger for DCI airlines and to "couple the brand" - heard that one a lot yesterday. I know one surefire way to Couple the Brand - make all flying one brand. Too logical, I know. And the part about the large RJ scope being "gone" was something said as an aside to a different question. It took me a minute to realize what he said. |
Originally Posted by RoughLandings
(Post 662165)
Some observations of Mr. Moak's presentation and Q&A at the Compass Road Show in MSP yesterday:
1) He blasted the APA for holding the line on 50-seat scope and for their attempts to bring the regional feed into the mainline. He firmly believes (somehow...) that if they give up their scope that it will mean 1000 mainline pilots brought back from furlough. 2) The MEC is very much in favor of as MANY flow-through agreements as they can get, because it "couples the regional feed to the brand". Actively seeking to sign more flow agreements. 3) He said the 76-seat scope is "gone and will not be coming back to the mainline". 4) Compass will be out of the Delta MEC in October, pending a miracle; Compass will not get DAL numbers. 5) He says there are no violations by RAH/Shuttle America and that they are looking into it. 6) He knows that people hammer him on this (and other) boards. All in all, it seemed as though he was trying to convince us that we need to accept our shoddy contract and pay because we are "Delta pilots". The scope battle just seems that much tougher now. |
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 662204)
What is this guy's agenda? It seems quite contradictory to many Delta pilots...espcially ones who post in this forum.
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Moak has got to go. That birthday cake must have had something in it.
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Originally Posted by RoughLandings
(Post 662202)
Bar,
I did forget the part about meeting with the DCI MEC heads to negotiate a minimum standard for safety/hiring practices. He told us that this will make the bargaining position stronger for DCI airlines and to "couple the brand" - heard that one a lot yesterday. I know one surefire way to Couple the Brand - make all flying one brand. Too logical, I know. And the part about the large RJ scope being "gone" was something said as an aside to a different question. It took me a minute to realize what he said. Of course, the next question is. "If you are helping management package us up to sell, and everyone else is getting a flow through, what is our place in line? Is that what NWA promised us? What about the Delta MEC's representational duty to look out for our best interests?" Moak and Mike Haber must be amigos. How else to explain the rush to get the Delta MEC in another legal battle? I mean why? When the better course of action is so clear? |
Originally Posted by 944Turbo
(Post 662207)
Moak has got to go. That birthday cake must have had something in it.
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