That was the point of asking them to rerun numbers. We also need to get in to the books to see where the real costs are hit.

One thing you need to realize is that these DCI PWA's are not what they were 13 years ago when you were there. They have trip and duty rigs, they have 401K matches etc, they have long call and short call reserve. They are not quite to our level but they are close. Add in the legacy costs of pilots making DCI their career, and the margins that are paid, and I truly believe that added with the savings of mainline quality, you will save money over the long term and even some in the short term.

I want to see us get a firm commitment from the company that as DCI contracts are up for renewal this flying is returned to mainline and these contracts are not renewed. I want to see our scope worded to be inclusive not exclusive, and I want to see this company prosper, and not at labors expense. It is possible, and we see it every day.
Every time a pilot group agrees to a concession, it lowers the bar and makes it that much harder for any of us to dig out of this hole. Small steps in the correct direction lead to major changes over two or three contracts, remember that.

Brake, you and I may not agree on the methods, but we are agreeing on the goal. Best practices and a lot of straight talk will get all of us on the same page in regard to the methods.

They are having a major issue with instructor staffing up North right now. I am sure a fix will be needed, and now might be the time to turn back some of that as well.

Absolutely. Hopefully we will get to see some fresh perspective and be able to revisit some of our "write offs". Heck the reinvent our checklist every 6 months or so, why not some outdated scope language, some outdated pay.....you get the picture. I would like to see us find ways to do things instead of finding reasons why we cannot.

I just don't want to scare Sven and Ollie. :)

Exactly and precisely.

An open dialogue with those whom the reps represent will show us our best thinking and greatest chance of success.

I am sure that 757 will be happy if all of the 90's go to MSP ;)

You get my e-mail last night? Read and respond in kind. ;)

That is not correct - they are carried on the staffing documents in whatever acft they fly/instruct on. There is no separate instructor category for staffing. Typically sim instructors worked a few months in the sim, a few months off on the line with the category adjusted for their availibility. LCA's either fly OE or a regular schedule or a combination thereof. I think you are overs estimating the effect of them coming back to the line

I did not get your e-mail last night. Where should I look for it?

The North side always practiced fly as you train, train as you fly...our instructors were full service, eg OE and Sim...so that the student never had to hear, you would learn that on the line. Just a different philosophy.