Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 669499)

I am sure that 757 will be happy if all of the 90's go to MSP ;)

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 669484)

That was the point of asking them to rerun numbers. We also need to get in to the books to see where the real costs are hit.

One thing you need to realize is that these DCI PWA's are not what they were 13 years ago when you were there. They have trip and duty rigs, they have 401K matches etc, they have long call and short call reserve. They are not quite to our level but they are close. Add in the legacy costs of pilots making DCI their career, and the margins that are paid, and I truly believe that added with the savings of mainline quality, you will save money over the long term and even some in the short term.

I want to see us get a firm commitment from the company that as DCI contracts are up for renewal this flying is returned to mainline and these contracts are not renewed. I want to see our scope worded to be inclusive not exclusive, and I want to see this company prosper, and not at labors expense. It is possible, and we see it every day.
Every time a pilot group agrees to a concession, it lowers the bar and makes it that much harder for any of us to dig out of this hole. Small steps in the correct direction lead to major changes over two or three contracts, remember that.

Brake, you and I may not agree on the methods, but we are agreeing on the goal. Best practices and a lot of straight talk will get all of us on the same page in regard to the methods.

Originally Posted by sevenfiveseven (Post 669512)

Yes I will be..........and some 88s as well!:D

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 669349)

That is one thing that I would like to see too. I would like the LC window increased to 14-15 hrs after the hr of 1700. That allows for guys to get a trip in the AM and have the ability to commute in for it. The time of day that gets you nailed is late afternoon and early evening. If we could find a way to allow this preference, and or waive it for in base guys, it would also be a big improvement. Kind of like reducing your raw. If you commuted in and need to get out of the crash pad you could wave your LC of 12-15 hrs (depending on time of day) to a min of nine to get the FAA required rest.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 669513)

Republic hardly has anything. No trip regs, no duty regs, no cancellation pay, a 401k contribution not even close to ours, and first officers that top out at $37/hour. Republic is our biggest threat as they are the one turning into its own airline.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 669517)

If you live in MSP Sevenfive, are you doing observation flights for phase III?

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 669466)

Yep that is the point.

Mainline is not a size of aircraft, but a quality of service. Mainline can be anything we want it to be. We could fly 1900's if we wanted to. I am sure someone would love to start on the bottom of our list making 30 bucks an hr in that aircraft.

It is all in the way it is sold. Quit thinking mainline equals big jets. That is what got us in to this mess.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 669531)

I PMed ya.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 669546)

Joe, I am not saying that you ideas are bad. All I have ever said is that the approach needed to be a little different.