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acl65pilot 08-14-2009 12:58 PM

Hey Bar, you know anyone that is thinking of running that feels that scope and unity are worth fighting for?

Tomcat 08-14-2009 01:00 PM

When Joe Kolshak came back for a second slice of pie by asking for another 12% pay reduction he was doing his job as Delta management. He took the temperature of the Delta Pilot group, told management that we would bite off on this..... and the rest is history.

Now you have Lee Moak, who is I thought was representing us, giving up on scope, not listening to the pilot group. Perhaps Lee could find a high level job elsewhere within our company. I don't feel as though I'm getting my 1.95% of representation from Lee.

I think the world of my Marine Corps brothers, but this is not giving me a good feeling about the leadership that Lee is providing.

What am I missing?

TC

BigGuns 08-14-2009 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 662213)
Sailingfun to Moak's defense in 3...2...1...:rolleyes:

I thought Moak was ok.... But after these remarks I think he needs to be recalled... I have no idea how he can be defended!

RepublicofTexas 08-14-2009 01:10 PM

My question, is which of you are telling your reps to have LM take this position?

Hello?

slowplay 08-14-2009 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 662204)
What is this guy's agenda? It seems quite contradictory to many Delta pilots...espcially ones who post in this forum.

Which guy, RoughLandings or Moak?

One has a 4 year track record of delivering positive returns (including scope) to Delta pilots. One is a presumed Compass pilot posting under an anonymous pseudonym.

I suspect he's the same American MD-80 furloughee that misrepresented everything said there....:rolleyes: Instead of taking it up with his "facts" on our forum, he plays the cowardly game without accountability.

RepublicofTexas 08-14-2009 01:14 PM

Here come the fireworks!!!!

smitty145 08-14-2009 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 662226)
Which guy, RoughLandings or Moak?

One has a 4 year track record of delivering positive returns (including scope) to Delta pilots. One is a presumed Compass pilot posting under an anonymous pseudonym.

I suspect he's the same American MD-80 furloughee that misrepresented everything said there....:rolleyes: Instead of taking it up with his "facts" on our forum, he plays the cowardly game without accountability.

What's positive about watching 76 seat, two class jets (which may or may not weigh 86,000 lbs) flying around with non-Delta pilots?

INAV8OR 08-14-2009 01:21 PM

Well, Bang, boom, ahhh, Ohhh....If what Rough landings is qouting is true, then I say we need LM out of there. Maybe when can get the same guys that are running this airline to head the MEC...If LM doesn't listen to his pilot group, then he needs to go and take the out dated ALPA with him. Now is the time to rid ourselves of ALPA, the next contract will be up and it will be our time to take our slice of the pie. All Alpa wants to do is grow its bank role along with 70's staches...ACL grow a stach or cut it off if you have one and head this revolution. Viva in house union...

johnso29 08-14-2009 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by RepublicofTexas (Post 662224)
My question, is which of you are telling your reps to have LM take this position?

Hello?

I write my Rep EVERY month. I voice my displeasure with the continued outsourcing of our flying, & question whether Lee Moak cares enough to prevent our 100 seat flying from disappearing. It's what I consider as a pilot group our biggest battle, & it's here. Yes, Negotiations don't open for a few years but we should be making the battle plan NOW!! And everytime I ask about it I'm told Moak will not discuss the issue. Doesn't give me warm fuzzies about his direction.

RepublicofTexas 08-14-2009 01:24 PM

Before we burn the house down, lets work on the house. If it still sucks, then we can talk about an in house union.
Lets not get a head of ourselves.


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