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brakechatter 08-28-2009 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 669543)
Where have I heard that before? Now you're starting to sound like me...

About the poor quality of service on our regional carriers? I couldn't agree more. Glad you agree.

hockeypilot44 08-28-2009 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 669547)
I'm not very diplomatic and I'm not a politician...But back in 2000 when we filed the PID, I said the problem would get worse and the solution more costly and less likely, as time passed...

There was more leverage then, and the cost would not have been as high as it is now...You and others may be more "political", but that doesn't always mean you will solve the problem...

You have some good ideas, but in the end one of two things are going to happen. The Delta Connection carriers will be flying anything smaller than a 757, or Delta Connection is done growing and will shrink or stagnate from this point on. Either way the whipsaw will continue and you will be held down by companies with terrible work rules and benefits like Mesa and Republic. You will never be on the Delta seniority list ahead of anyone that is on it right now no matter how senior you are at ASA. You have to accept that being senior at ASA means nothing when it comes to mainline. You made your decision to stay and you seem pretty happy with it. Just don't come *****ing in ten years when you are in a similar situation to the Comair captains. I agree with you on a lot of things, but decided it was less risky long term to quit my regional.

jiminmem 08-28-2009 02:53 PM

I always use to laugh when people complained about seeing RJs at the regional level. My belief any aircraft that said Delta, NWA, United, etc, should be flown and operated by that carrier. It shouldn't matter if it was a CRJ/ERJ, SF340, BE1900, etc. That is the only way you can guarantee the same level of service.

When people buy a ticket they should know they are buying a flight on the airline that they choose.

BigGuns 08-28-2009 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 669389)
According to the CPO, this was from the JFK Roadshow in JFK on 8/27 and came from Steve Dickson. They also said the some of the flying will be in a shift of domestic flights from JFK to LGA. They also plan on being in the USAIR term by FEB 2010, subject to GOV approval. They said the side show and clip should be avalible on Delta Net soon.

I miss spoke... there are 125 slots not 142 and about 30 are planned for mainline and aprox 95 for DCI.... sorry

buzzpat 08-28-2009 03:30 PM

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Hawaii50 08-28-2009 04:09 PM

I wonder if they want that stuff posted on a public board? Or if we do?

newKnow 08-28-2009 04:15 PM

Buzz,

Thats some pretty deep stuff. Are you sure it's ok to post that? I mean with their names and positions on it? (Just asking.)

New K (Just a 'fraidie cat) :D

iceman49 08-28-2009 04:22 PM

Think I've seen all of it in publications prior to the posting, its all public.

flycrj200 08-28-2009 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 669248)
Sounds about right. Might be a few more mainline, but not much. Great for Mesa and OH.

I do not think Comair or Mesa will see any increase in flying as a result of the gate swap. According JB’s “Comair President” weekly message he stated that as far as he knows, Comair will not see any increase in flying but a shift in flying as a result of the gate swap. And according to a post on the regional forum, Delta filed a suit again to terminate Mesa’s contract.

[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Form 8-K for MESA AIR GROUP INC

28-Aug-2009

Other Events


“Item 8.01. Other Events

On August 19, 2009, Delta Air Lines, Inc. ("Delta") filed suit in the Northern District of Georgia seeking to terminate the Delta Connection Agreement among Delta, Mesa Air Group, Inc. (the "Company"), and the Company's wholly-owned subsidiary, Freedom Airlines, Inc. ("Freedom"), dated May 3, 2005 (as thereafter amended, the "Connection Agreement"). Delta's lawsuit seeks a declaratory judgment from the Court authorizing it to terminate the Connection Agreement as a result of a claimed "material breach" by Freedom. The Company vehemently denies there is any basis for terminating the Connection Agreement and intends to vigorously defend its rights thereunder. The Company also intends to file counterclaims against Delta for the damages caused by Delta's continued bad faith actions and breaches of the Connection Agreement.

The alleged material breach relates to Delta's efforts to impose certain cost reductions on Freedom. Freedom believes that Delta's claims are wholly without merit and are a direct effort by Delta to circumvent the injunction prohibiting Delta from terminating Freedom's Connection Agreement, which was recently upheld by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals. For a description of the Company's contractual relationship and legal proceedings with Delta, see the disclosure set forth in the Company's Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended and subsequently filed quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and current reports on Form 8-K.”[/FONT]

firstmob 08-28-2009 04:24 PM

ACL is there any movement or ongoing talks with AA ref JFK?


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