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DeadHead 04-10-2013 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1388419)
Etihad has also been granted ATH-JFK.

Well at the very least this may force us to think twice about overplaying the conservative international capacity-cut card.
Might force us to keep the pressure on internationally.

georgetg 04-10-2013 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1388566)
Well at the very least this may force us to think twice about overplaying the conservative international capacity-cut card.
Might force us to keep the pressure on internationally.

Bingo!

The gulf carriers are smelling blood in the water in Athens and Milan...

But just for perspective:
NYC - Milan weekly seats:

Emirates: 2520 weekly seats
Transatlantic JV: 3290 weekly seats
(Delta: 1722, Alitalia: 1568)

It wouldn't take much to crash Emirates yields, unfortunately the continuing flight to Dubai very well may be subsidizing the NYC Milan leg...

Cheers
George

Timbo 04-10-2013 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1388580)
Bingo!

The gulf carriers are smelling blood in the water in Athens and Milan...

But just for perspective:
NYC - Milan weekly seats:

Emirates: 2520 weekly seats
Transatlantic JV: 3290 weekly seats
(Delta: 1722, Alitalia: 1568)

It wouldn't take much to crash Emirates yields, unfortunately the continuing flight to Dubai very well may be subsidizing the NYC Milan leg...

Cheers
George


Yeahbut...they don't need "Yeilds" to survive, they are state owned. They can lose money forever, we however, cannot. And we cannot compete with them head to head, cost wise, service wise or price wise.

Oh, and they pay less for their one hundred brand new 777's than we do for our 18 older ones.

So we got that going for us. :rolleyes:

Avgwhitemale 04-10-2013 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1388622)
Yeahbut...they don't need "Yeilds" to survive, they are state owned. They can lose money forever, we however, cannot. And we cannot compete with them head to head, cost wise, service wise or price wise.

Oh, and they pay less for their one hundred brand new 777's than we do for our 18 older ones.

So we got that going for us. :rolleyes:

DAL has a nice little U.S. domestic feed to a modest international feed. Honestly, most of our international flying is done by other carriers. I don't have stats in front of me, but looking at our relatively small wb fleet one could surmise DAL is not in position to "home grow" our international capacity. Rather, going forward DAL will be reliant upon foreign carriers to fly routes for us (ie: Virgin Atlantic deal). Somebody tell me I'm wrong. UAL has a much larger wb fleet. We may have a notional 787 order but no real serious wb orders are in the works.

forgot to bid 04-10-2013 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1388508)
Curious... does DL prohibit taking pictures in flight out of sterile cockpit? Nearly every pilot I know does so.

Yeah! I got a good one for my go-around the other day. It's hard to get a photo of a go-around, by the time you get the camera out the whole thing looks like a box of kittens dropped off in a SWA new hire class.

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps438b2e24.png

finis72 04-10-2013 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale (Post 1388627)
DAL has a nice little U.S. domestic feed to a modest international feed. Honestly, most of our international flying is done by other carriers. I don't have stats in front of me, but looking at our relatively small wb fleet one could surmise DAL is not in position to "home grow" our international capacity. Rather, going forward DAL will be reliant upon foreign carriers to fly routes for us (ie: Virgin Atlantic deal). Somebody tell me I'm wrong. UAL has a much larger wb fleet. We may have a notional 787 order but no real serious wb orders are in the works.

RFP for 20 wb's and 20 large nb"s went out the begining of March. Not much I know, but hey, it's a start.

forgot to bid 04-10-2013 06:39 PM

Here's another...

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps3bde4063.png


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1388506)
In the above post, I meant on Facebook. Someone is enjoying a month off without pay courtesy of a certain gobmint agency.


Wai wha?

acl65pilot 04-10-2013 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1388580)
Bingo!

The gulf carriers are smelling blood in the water in Athens and Milan...

But just for perspective:
NYC - Milan weekly seats:

Emirates: 2520 weekly seats
Transatlantic JV: 3290 weekly seats
(Delta: 1722, Alitalia: 1568)

It wouldn't take much to crash Emirates yields, unfortunately the continuing flight to Dubai very well may be subsidizing the NYC Milan leg...

Cheers
George

Does EK need to make a profit on any of its legs?

forgot to bid 04-10-2013 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1388698)
Does EK need to make a profit on any of its legs?

I know the answer!!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TDMawSLjr2...ising_hand.jpg

A: No, they just need to make sure you don't make a profit. Kind of like two guys running from a bear.

acl65pilot 04-10-2013 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1388703)
I know the answer!!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TDMawSLjr2...ising_hand.jpg

No, but, they just need to make sure you don't make a profit.

Think of it as the SWA effect with their crazy hedges, the only difference is that those hedges will last for a lot longer than three to five years.


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