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Old 04-12-2013, 05:31 AM
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This is a total non sequitur argument. Neither of us are making any such claim. This is about policy, not handouts. The US government will gladly let DAL/UAL/LCC fail on one hand while actively supporting carriers like emirates with ExIM bank loans. Or maybe I am wrong in my view of this...

I know it's old news but DL has sued Ex-IM bank over this very thing. No help from Uncle Sam on this one.
Boeing has massive lobbying influence to keep the subsidies rolling via Exim thanks to the military industrial complex. AMR is sitting this one out because Boeing is on the creditors committee. UAL is all chummy because Chicago based Boeing is a big corp customer. DL is fighting an uphill battle, but the new board member, former AG for the DOT, will lend some horsepower to the cause. Right now, our own government is our biggest threat to our livelyhood.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:56 AM
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Having said that, don't BS people trying to make them think you are some kind of super entrepreneur. Leaving one MEC and consulting by the minute for another MEC hardly qualifies one as a Master of the Universe.
IMHO "super entrepreneur" might not be a bad term. Not only does he have technical expertise, but more importantly, political expertise.

Moak's patronage is the most powerful force in our association. Musch more powerful than our governing documents or voting members. We are simply along for the ride. Fortunately about 80 percent of what the King does is good.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:01 AM
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our own government is our biggest threat to our livelyhood.
Both as pilots and individuals I'm afraid...
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:05 AM
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Not to change the subject but I thought you might get a kick out of this:

I just went to DL Net to check on May bid awards, back door'd it of course, and bingo, a whole bunch of Capt. X's show up!!

So I click on my category and sure enough, there's the May Bid Awards...

for 2012!!

I think someone in the G.O. forgot to push the FLUSH 2012 button. Funny that only the Catp. X's were there, no F/O's, for May 2012!

The good news is, I had a good line in 2012, I doubt May 2013 will be as good, most of our ATL trips have gone away, replaced by DH to everywhere to start and end.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:29 AM
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Both as pilots and individuals I'm afraid...
Having just done my taxes, I must agree. Not the country our forefathers ever imagined I'm afraid. Just got my ALPA PAC sticker and pin. As much as I do criticize our union, the PAC is really the only method of directly fighting for our profession. The EU is in another big pu$h to open up foreign ownership, and cabotage is being discussed again. Not to mention our friends at the ExIm bank... Give till it hurts, lest it all be taken.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:43 AM
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Too bad none of that will happen with the current administration in power.
I don't always agree with your political tirades, but I think you're onto simething here. You're looking back on the Bush Lorenzo-is-always-welcome-at-my-dinner-table-no-PEB-for-you-New-World-Order presidencies, and their desire to help the little guy at the expense of big business, their protectionist approach, and their ruthless clamping down on government largesse towards the military-industrial complex, and you're thinking "now, THOSE GUYS, those guys would really have my back", and weeping soft tears of nostalgia. Right?
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
Not to change the subject but I thought you might get a kick out of this:

I just went to DL Net to check on May bid awards, back door'd it of course, and bingo, a whole bunch of Capt. X's show up!!

So I click on my category and sure enough, there's the May Bid Awards...

for 2012!!

I think someone in the G.O. forgot to push the FLUSH 2012 button. Funny that only the Catp. X's were there, no F/O's, for May 2012!

The good news is, I had a good line in 2012, I doubt May 2013 will be as good, most of our ATL trips have gone away, replaced by DH to everywhere to start and end.
I would just fly the 2012 schedule. What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
I would just fly the 2012 schedule. What could possibly go wrong?
Which version of the charts/fms/plates would you use?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:03 AM
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Expanding Ex-Im's Mandate Is A Big Mistake | Cato Institute

Here is good conservative view on the Ex-Im bank, T. It's quite critical of Obama (music to your ears) and the bank's support in Congress.

But if you read through it, it's critical of Obama's desire to use the bank to boost DOMESTIC sales to even out competition from foreign sources, as explained by the President in a speech made at Boeing in Seatte.

If I understand correctly, Obama wants to use the bank to sell Boeing to Delta.

That stupid Obama again, trying to help us and our company do transactions the way Airbus and Lufthansa or Air France work. What a jerk, right T?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by N9373M View Post
Which version of the charts/fms/plates would you use?
I've been keeping my Jepps updated for just such an occasion. I assume Timbo did the same.
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